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  The end of cheap oil = the end of "business as usual"?

  by Nicolas in

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  the subject of peak oil has been talked a couple of time here.

  you'll find a lot of infos about it on google but i want to do know your opinion... will the end of cheap oil will mean the end of the world (death) for a large portion of the humanity or we will just adapt to the new reality?

  personnaly, i think that we will have to live in a post-technological world if we put no more energy to find something to replace petrol.

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  Savvy countries use Nuclear power plants to generate most of their electricity, expensive to build but then produce real cheap electricity, look at France and the USA.

  They could build more of them to produce fuel (hydrogen) for cars, from WATER by electrolisis. Oh but the oil companies sure want a piece of the action, who knows what they all are talking behind closed doors..

  But the rest of the world is kept under control by controlling their only source of energy, oil.

  They won't allow other countries to build nuclear p. plants, you know what the excuse is,...
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  The end of cheap oil = the end of "business as usual"?

  by Nicolas in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the subject of peak oil has been talked a couple of time here.

  you'll find a lot of infos about it on google but i want to do know your opinion... will the end of cheap oil will mean the end of the world (death) for a large portion of the humanity or we will just adapt to the new reality?

  personnaly, i think that we will have to live in a post-technological world if we put no more energy to find something to replace petrol.

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  Nicolas,

  Also, there's thousand of objects (plastic) that we use everyday and they are made from petrol.

  a 'hydrogen economy' is the answer,

  carbon is more versatile than 'plastic' it could be made more flexible than plastic or stronger, less corrosive and ligther than steel (good to build home, cruise ships and cars, even clothing), more conductive than cooper for electric wiring and power plant generators. If you think plastic was something wait for all kind of carbon fibers to fully replace it..

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  The end of Petrol just spells disaster for greddy oil executives....

  "Oil executives" will manipulate the economy and keep control of the new fuels, Shell is ready to switch to hydrogen as a fuel for cars in tow years (at least in Germany), no to mention other sources of energy.

  water is 2 thirds hydrogen (yes cars can run from "water"), but to begin with, hydrogen can be extracted easier from HYDRO-carbons, such as oil and gas.

  What do you think is the fuel used by space vehicles such as the DISCOVERY spacecraft.
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  what do ex jws become

  by jwfacts in

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  what do most ex jws become, christian, athiest/agnostic or some other religion?

  and since we all need to be labelled, what do i call myself now?

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  It a mental and spiritual 'metamorphosis', the final result, generally speaking, is yet to be seen.
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  at a pioneer's birthday party... YEAH THAT'S RIGHT!

  by in a new york bethel minute in

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  a few days ago i had the privilege of being invited to a regular pioneer's birthday party.

  i met her a couple of weeks ago, and even though she knows i am inactive and have serious doubts, we hit it off on a social level.

  so that's why i was invited... .

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  Just why were birthdays of pagan origin I never could understand, the pagans also had weddings and there is nothing wrong with that.

  to channel time, energy, money and other resources to wt activities only
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  Anyone ever debated with Ray Franz re. EVOLUTION?

  by GetBusyLiving in

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  ray's a super guy, we all know that.

  just wondering if he has ever been open to discussing creation vs. evolution.

  he has an essay on his website but i don't really think his arguments are sound at all.. anyone here ever chatted with him about it?

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  http://www.commentarypress.com/
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  at a pioneer's birthday party... YEAH THAT'S RIGHT!

  by in a new york bethel minute in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a few days ago i had the privilege of being invited to a regular pioneer's birthday party.

  i met her a couple of weeks ago, and even though she knows i am inactive and have serious doubts, we hit it off on a social level.

  so that's why i was invited... .

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  btw,

  when a where was the last reference the wt made to bday as pagan, that will give an idea as to why jw celebrating...
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  Anyone interested in astronomy???

  by zagor in

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  never saw a thread even remotely related to a topic of astronomy.

  so i'm just wondering if any of you shares my interest in the subject or is it all sex drugs and rock and roll (just kidding)

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  Not really, but why are 'they' going to the moon again?
  

  
  
  

  is it to 'import', monopolize and make helium3 the new source of energy instead of hydrogen? (that's found everywhere on earth...)
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  JWs And Ex-JWs--Do You Struggle With Depression Because You Were A JW?

  by minimus in

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  i've seen how some are so burdened by the fact that they were witnesses, that literally, every day is a struggle.

  are you in need of therapeutic help because you are or were a jehovah's witness?

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  jw or not it is a rat race goin nowhere.. in developing countries situation is even worst, merely survival.

  If we are very ignorant we go insane for not knowing what is going on.. If we have some knowledge and reasoning power we go insane not knowing the source of human suffering nor the solutions.

  No wonder most people are on drugs, from tobbaco and alcohol to (younameit)

  The expected 'new world' (by 1975, then before the end of the XX century) was a good mental survival 'tool' which is no longer effective. .

  Brain is complex organ, family and social support and a very special supplemental nutritional program can help. But as a jw when the person makes a mistake (according to jw rules), that's when the needed support, at the most critical moment is not there, shunning.

  Under stress nutritional requirements increase greatly, mental stress can make you physically sick and to make it worst, a sick body is stressful for the body itself... to eliminate stress resting is ordered, inducing the person to sleep with medication if if neccesary

  You'll find that the serum (sp?) commonly inyected to patients (why?) is mainly water with minerals that our body need to heal, nutrients that should be in the food we eat daily. Good and apropriate fuel is a key element for an engine to run smoothly.
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  Who Was Shocked By the Watchtower UN NGO Scandal?

  by AlanF in

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  i'd like to get comments from people about whether and how much they were shocked, surprised, or otherwise bothered by the watchtower society's becoming an associated non-governmental organization (ngo).. note that i'd like to see these comments because they might lead to some interesting publicity, so please comment accordingly.. alanf

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  Yes, shocked.

  I.M.O. it is the greatest issue i ever heard. It is related to the the most important doctrine ("God's Kingdom") teached by wt and a key entity (UN) to play a very very importan role just before the END.

  Other issues such as blood, child molester etc just dont compare.
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  Are You or Were You Ever On Meds For Depression?

  by minimus in

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  i know so many people, not just witnesses that are on zoloft or similar drugs.

  i know of some that, once they left the "truth", stopped taking these meds and have not had to go back on them.

  i know of some that, if they did not have them, would not be able to properly function......what about you?

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  What tirgger depression? many things...

  hard to face problems or situations to deal with, without family or social support,

  in turn it may open the door to question the meaning of life (btw, a quesiton without an apropriate answer)

  Partial solutions,

  Stay busy, be productive, always.

  Learn to deal with stresful situations

  Do physical activity, at least do long walks, better yet if the activity is to produce or accomplish something in particular,

  Be open to friendship, even ocassional talk to strangers, without any particular interest or seeking benefit from it.

  I think that is why jw 'used' to feel good after going door to door (when people used to open their doors and be willing to talk, not any more) , they called it receiving god's spirit... it was actually 'sharing' with other human beings that made them feel good.

  Generally speaking, we have to give our body and mind the chance to reach a balance, it may not be easy if we dont understand what our body and mind need to function 'normally'.

  It seem to me that many decades ago our economic and social structure were much better for our mental health.