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  Menlo Park KH - Elder Tells All - and more

  by Juan Viejo2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've published part one of a three part series about the menlo park kh scandal.

  http://ex-jw.com/menlo-park-elder-tells-all-1.

  this has been a tough one for me.. the original federal case was dismissed in january.

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  Balaamsass

  Thanks for the link. Names Names Names !!!!!!
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  Elder's School 2012…any news?

  by Londo111 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have heard rumblings that this has started up in some places.

  i know there are some awakened elders on here who often provide good intel.

  in light of all the juicy things that have happened in the last year, especially the conti case, i think many of us here are pining to hear any bit of news, so it would be much appreciated!.

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  Balaamsass

  In the mid sixties when I was a lad, we had a single pioneer sister conduct the bookstudy. The congregation servant did it to humiliate some of the brothers in the hall who "didn't reach out".
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  Any updates on the SPY network at the I.R.S., F.B.I., and other agencies for Watchtower Bible and Tract Society?

  by Balaamsass in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  curious, with almost 25,000 members here.

  network of j.w.

  does anyone have any up to date info on the status of the volunteer "spies"?.

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  Balaamsass

  This was interesting....about an FBI connection. I called a JW down there and he said he knew a JWs by the names anonymous had! Also the previous post...humm!

  "

  1. [15:00] and those do not alert the fdic or any governmental agencies
  2. [15:00] as long as they all bank at the same bank say for example chase bank
  3. [15:00] you never know they are laundering
  4. [15:00] and if someone gets wise to it they have jehovah witnesses who work in the bank
  5. [15:00] who can help to cover the tracks or deny a subpoena
  6. [15:00] judge james made a court order for all the bank records from chase bank
  7. [15:01] and wells fargo bank once we showed her the 200,000 dollar deposit that mysteriously vanished
  8. [15:01] she signed the order and three weeks later the case was forced closed
  9. [15:01] apparently certain clerks signed an order that APPEARED to be from judge james dismissing the case
  10. [15:02] but they were forged and did not come from judge james
  11. [15:02] but they were willing to take that risk to prevent us from getting the bank records
  12. [15:02] certain accounts are used for certain things within the watchtower
  13. [15:02] rumor has it that they have like their own
  14. [15:03] witness relocation program, meaning if someone is accused of being a pedophile and the evidence looks credible they will
  15. [15:03] allocate money to that individual and get him out of town
  16. [15:03] i believe they use chase bank for the laundering of big funds
  17. [15:03] and wells fargo for incidential shit that comes up like getting someone out of town
  18. [15:03] then when you ask about that person you are told they are on special assignment for the ministry
  19. [15:03] and you never see them again
  20. [15:04] a letter is sent to the local congregation they move into and the letter states this brother was accused of blah blah but they are innocent and please protect them and assure their privacy
  21. [15:04] one of the main guys that they did this with was paul koehler
  22. [15:05] he was a circuit overseer and when it was apparent he would have to testify
  23. [15:05] he vanished
  24. [15:05] when the judge asked where he was the watchtower lawyer anthony smith claimed he was on special assignment in chicago and could not be reached
  25. [15:06] like i said, our case was forcibly dismissed to prevent us from getting the things under court order we filed for
  26. [15:06] the clerk who aided them in dismissing the case has also vanished from the san francisco court house
  27. [15:06] her name was brenda tolbert
  28. [15:07] we were never sure if she was a jehovah witness or someone who just took a payoff to sabotage the case
  29. [15:07] ironically the san francisco court is aware of all of this and they have a real dilemna cause they dont want the new case to go forward cause it will expose the clerks
  30. [15:07] but they cant find a reason to dismiss it that will look legitimate
  31. [15:07] so they have decided to continue the case for as long as they can, we wont have a first court date for months now
  32. [15:08] i guess to buy the watchtower time to figure out what to do
  33. [15:09] not to mention they have threatened several reporters to prevent them from writing any stories about this in the newspaper
  34. [15:13] the watchtower only fears one thing we found out well two things
  35. [15:13] the media and the IRS
  36. [15:14] during the depositions we gave they demanded to know exactly who we talked to about the money laundering and even went so far as to ask for a physical description of the agents we spoke to
  37. [15:14] they have much covered
  38. [15:14] if say something comes up involving the FBI they have a witness to handle that
  39. [15:14] his name is D-- M-----
  40. [15:15] his father was an FBI agent who actually worked in the FBI's cult division and it was his job to spy on and infiltrate the watchtower to find out more about their goings on
  41. [15:15] M----- followed in his dads footsteps but the opposite way
  42. [15:16] he handles any legal issues that may arise involving local law enforcement or with the feds"
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  Any updates on the SPY network at the I.R.S., F.B.I., and other agencies for Watchtower Bible and Tract Society?

  by Balaamsass in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  curious, with almost 25,000 members here.

  network of j.w.

  does anyone have any up to date info on the status of the volunteer "spies"?.

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  I was following a link from here to "Paste Bin" and Anonymous. And came across this. Can someone explain to me WHAT "Paste Bin" is ? Very strange stuff.

  "3366. [14:49] WT operate primarily out of california cause d-- adams is related to people in the 3367. [14:49] san carlos congregation he has a neice or cousin who attends there 3368. [14:50] the surveillance expert they use to spy on jehovahs witnesses is named 3369. [14:50] b---- r------ 3370. [14:50] he owns a surveillance company and he is used to tap phones and spy on jw's who seem to be trouble makers 3371. [14:50] he resides in sunnyvale, california 3372. [14:51] he is an ex cop who went private and started his own surveillance company 3373. [14:51] the RBC which is the regional building committee 3374. [14:51] is the western union of the watchtower, they handle all the monetary issues, they work autonomously but answer to the service desk 3375. [14:52] their system is wireless based and has all the information needed to get into the watchtowers main system 3376. [14:52] the RBC system is separate so that it prevents it from being connected to the watchtower meaning 3377. [14:52] if you get into the watchtower system you wont get into the RBC cause its separate 3378. [14:52] however 3379. [14:53] if you get into the RBC system it will get you into the watchtower 3380. [14:53] as its backward compatible so to speak 3381. [14:53] i will have the name and address of the person who runs the west coast operations for the RBC in one hour"
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  For those in any doubt that the Society is at war with Facebook...

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ...take a look at this from page 29 of the latest october 2012 awake!.

  the gloves are now well-and-truly off.

  referring to facebook as a "social networking website" clearly isn't working.. the society now feels compelled to start being more specific about which websites it doesn't want you to visit!.

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  Balaamsass

  I love FB for business. I have more than one account (one is not under my name). it makes it easy to keep in contact with Clients, potential clients, and the press. Most newspaper reporters have a FB page.

  Rule #1. Don't put up anything you wouldn't post on your front door.

  It is an excellent way to contact old JW friends and Apostate JW friends. Most people have a phone number, email address, town and FACEBOOK email account. PERFECT for forwarding newspaper clippings about child molesting, Brooklyn sales, etc. It is an excellent way to weed out trolls. Is he/she a real ex-JW or legal dept-IT Bethel lacky..the Facebook account will tell!

  I am amazed as to how many old friends (and their children) have left Watchtower over the years! The Pew study was on the mark!
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  Todays Bloomberg/ Business Week story: Religion and Money in the U.S.A.- "How the Mormans make Money".(explains how the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society hides assets).

  by Balaamsass in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the church of latter-day saints has amassed financial holdings worth billions.

  here's an inside look at its business empire.

  read the story on businessweek.com: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-07-10/how-the-mormons-make-money.

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  Since the MENLO PARK CALIFORNIA kingdom hall fiasco, has anyone gotten an accurate count on the number of Assembly Halls and Kingdom Halls Watchtower has obtained title to? This has multiplied assets by an infinate number ...talk about IRR!!!! Better than the Hedge Fund return.
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  Question? Do you know of any “statutory rape”, or “Child Molestation” cases handled as “Consensual sex “(fornication) by Jehovah’s Witnesses’ Judicial Committees?

  by Balaamsass in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i was talking about this with the mrs., and we can recount at least half dozen cases in the last 20 years of adult j.w.

  men having sex with teenage boys or girls.

  not only were the police not informed, but also the victim was treated as a guilty party in fornication.

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  Balaamsass

  Refried, I remember that phrase. I heard it only 5 years ago from an elder trying to marry off his 16 year old daughter. He said it to my face as my jaw dropped open. I couldn't keep a straight face.
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  Question? Do you know of any “statutory rape”, or “Child Molestation” cases handled as “Consensual sex “(fornication) by Jehovah’s Witnesses’ Judicial Committees?

  by Balaamsass in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i was talking about this with the mrs., and we can recount at least half dozen cases in the last 20 years of adult j.w.

  men having sex with teenage boys or girls.

  not only were the police not informed, but also the victim was treated as a guilty party in fornication.

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  Balaamsass

  Free Girl2006, Our hearts go out to you.
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  Conti Trial Transcripts and Court Documents of Attorney Zalkin's cases of 5 victims WT settled out-of-court, San Diego, all available to download using MediaFire

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the conti trial transcripts have been uploaded using mediafire.. .

  conti trial transcript: http://www.mediafire.com/?oj940x48xuuaa.

  the public domain court documents for the 5 victims wt settled out-of-court case in may-june 2012, attorney irwin zalkin, san diego, calif., have been uploaded using mediafire:.

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  Balaamsass

  Hummmmmm they can't have it both ways.

  Most protestant churches, ie baptist, own the building and sort of do their own thing. So no big $$ cases when something goes south.

  WTBTS controls everything. So that is why the MENLO PARK CONGREGATION scandal is important. It shows they now own and control EVERYTHING and therefore are responsible FOR EVERYTHING.

  It would be great if one of these BIG LAWFIRMS DID SOME PRO-BONO WORK FOR MENLO PARK and a few other halls ...a few things need rulings....( I hope some of you legle eagles are reading here today). Like a nut cracker...you need less energy with force from 2 directions....more effective than a hammer.
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  Desert View, Bonanza, Providence, Summerlin congregations in Las Vegas

  by freeflyingfaerie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ...if these congregations sound familiar to you, we may know each other.

  feeling that feeling again to want to connect with others that have left...and are now living... feel free to pm me if you wish to remain incognito~.

  (guess that means i'll have to check those pm's lol).

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  Balaamsass

  Meet-ups in Vegas would be fun. I have never gambled in my life....and for the life of me never could figure out exactly why it was unscriptural. Someone could teach us Blackjack.

  I used to have a re-occuring JW dream...I found a lottery ticket. Won a Million dollars, and the Society called and said if I didn't give it to them..I would be disfellowshipped...I always woke up ..never found out if we could negotiate that down to a few thousand....