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  Who Exactly Answers Your Letter When You Write the Society?

  by millie210 in

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  this is something i cannot find the answer to on my own.. who exactly answers your letter when you write the society?.

  i thought maybe there has been a thread on this before or maybe one of your awesome researchers would know how to answer?.

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  LOL So right Billy!!! The CO does an audit of the accounts!!!

  Billy has discovered how to get rid of Pedophiles in the BORG!!!! Acuse them of "sticky fingers" in the contribution box instead of Pedophilia!!!!
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  Thanks to everyone on this forum!

  by cedars in

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  today is my first anniversary as a jwn member.

  it's hard to believe that only a year has passed since i joined, but i feel that's a testament to how much i have been welcomed and made to feel like part of the furniture.. i would very much like to take this opportunity to thank everyone on the forum for the immense help and assistance i have received, particularly in my first few weeks/months of posting.

  it truly was a lifeline at a very distressing time for me.

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  Congrats to you and the MRS !!
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  Who Exactly Answers Your Letter When You Write the Society?

  by millie210 in

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  this is something i cannot find the answer to on my own.. who exactly answers your letter when you write the society?.

  i thought maybe there has been a thread on this before or maybe one of your awesome researchers would know how to answer?.

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  Sorry but you are correct. Even Governing Body members have personal secretaries, and really don't care.

  Some years ago I was trying to put an end to a notorious JW child pornographer who moved from area to area.

  I made an end run around the brother at Bethel who tended to shred these reports. So I had a personal friend... who was a personal friend of a Governing Body member... hand deliver my letter and files to the GB member (who knew me personally). Shure thing ..right? No response......

  They don't care.
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  Download 17-pages of misc. letters from a cong. to and from WT in 1970. 3 letters are about a molester

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  download 17-pages of misc.

  letters from a ny cong.

  committee to and from wt in 1970. the first three are about a molester in the congregation.

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  Thanks Barb.

  Because of redactions (needed I know) It was hard to follow the first letters. At first it seemed the first instance was a drunk with an open fly..the following letters show he was a Pedo. No contact with Police...even under Knorr ...at BETHEL. Definately shows policy on a number of issues. Sick.
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  FBI & Interpol Bust Internet Child Porn Ring

  by Balaamsass in

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  this article is from the huffington post.

  an fyi to parents, grandparents and everyone not all abusers are 100% sexually driven..there is big money in pedophilia.

  one videographer jw has never been convicted.

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  This article is from the Huffington Post. An FYI to parents, grandparents and everyone NOT all abusers are 100% sexually driven..there is BIG money in pedophilia. One videographer JW has never been convicted. He didn't "perform" sex acts on his victims..he simply photographed another man doing it.

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  DENISE LAVOIE, Associated Press

  BOSTON — The men came from different walks of life on two continents: a children's puppeteer in Florida, a hotel manager in Massachusetts, an emergency medical technician in Kansas, a day care worker in the Netherlands. In all, 43 men have been arrested over the past two years in a horrific, far-flung child porn network that unraveled like a sweater with a single loose thread.

  In this case, the thread was a stuffed toy bunny.

  The bunny, seen in a photo of a half-naked, distraught 18-month-old boy, was used to painstakingly trace a molester to Amsterdam. From there, investigators made one arrest after another of men accused of sexually abusing children, exchanging explicit photos of the attacks and even chatting online about abducting, cooking and eating youngsters.

  Authorities have identified more than 140 young victims so far and say there is no end in sight as they pore through hundreds of thousands of images found on the suspects' computers. They are also trying to determine whether the men who talked about murder and cannibalism actually committed such acts or were just sharing twisted fantasies.

  The still-widening investigation has been code-named Holitna, after a river in Alaska with many tributaries.

  "They are the worst of the worst," said Bruce Foucart, agent in charge of the U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement agency's Homeland Security Investigations unit in Boston. "This isn't just a child that's nude and someone's taking pictures of him; this is a child that's being raped by an adult, which is horrific."

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  The case began to unfold when Robert Diduca, a Sheraton hotel manager from Milford, Mass., sent the photo of the Dutch boy to an undercover federal agent in Boston. Diduca, a married father of three who used the screen name "Babytodd," thought he was sending the picture to another man with a sexual interest in babies and toddlers.

  Agents forwarded the photo to Interpol, the international police organization, and to several other countries.

  An investigator for the Dutch police recognized the stuffed bunny as Miffy, a familiar character in a series of Dutch children's books. She also traced the boy's orange sweater to a small Amsterdam store that had sold only 20 others like it.

  The boy's photo was broadcast on a national TV program similar to "America's Most Wanted." Within minutes, friends and relatives called the child's mother.

  Robert Mikelsons, a 27-year-old day care worker who baby-sat the boy, was arrested. On his computer were thousands and thousands of images of children being molested and raped, including the boy holding the stuffed bunny.

  Photos and online chats found on computers owned by Diduca and Mikelsons led to more than three dozen other suspects in seven countries, including Canada, Britain, Germany, Sweden and Mexico. The oldest victim in the Netherlands was 4, the youngest just 19 days old.

  Massachusetts U.S. Attorney Carmen Ortiz, whose office prosecuted Diduca, said the demand for photos of sexual assaults of young children, including babies and toddlers, has increased sharply in recent years.

  "This demand leads to the abuse of children, yet there is this misconception that somehow, viewing child pornography is a victimless crime," said. "It clearly is not."

  Diduca pleaded guilty to child porn and sexual exploitation charges and was sentenced to 18 years in prison. His lawyer, Richard Sweeney, said Diduca was sexually abused as a child by a Boy Scout leader. "He gets it, he knows he needs to be punished, he knows what he did is wrong," Sweeney said.

  Mikelsons also received an 18-year sentence, followed by indefinite psychiatric commitment, after confessing to sexually abusing more than 80 children.

  The horror did not let up after the Mikelsons case.

  In May, authorities arrested Michael Arnett of Roeland Park, Kan., after finding pornographic photos he allegedly produced. Agents discovered the pictures when they searched the computer of a Wisconsin man who had been chatting online with Mikelsons.

  What they found on Arnett's computer was unlike anything some of the investigators had ever come across: long, graphic, online chats about his desire to abduct, kill and eat children. They said he had also made photos of a naked 2-year-old boy in a roasting pan inside his oven. The child and two other boys Arnett allegedly abused and photographed were later identified and found alive.

  In July, authorities arrested four men they say had online discussions with Arnett about kidnapping and eating children. Those arrested included Ronald Brown, a children's puppeteer from Largo, Fla. (A YouTube video shows Brown during an appearance on a Christian TV kids show in the 1980s. In the video, he tells a child puppet that he did the right thing by refusing to look at "dirty pictures" some other youngsters tried to show him.)

  In excerpts of an online chat between Arnett and Brown from 2011, the two men appear to be discussing their desire to cook a child for Easter.

  "he would make a fine Easter feast," Arnett says.

  "yes, his thighs and butt cheeks would be fantastic for Easter," Brown responds.

  A lawyer for Arnett would not comment on the allegations. Brown's lawyer did not return calls.

  Prosecutors said Brown acknowledged his online conversations but said that it was all a fantasy and that he would never hurt anyone.

  "Obviously the discussions regarding their claims of cannibalism are disturbing and a concern to our agency," said ICE spokesman Ross Feinstein. He said agents are following all leads "to make sure these individuals didn't follow through on any of their claims."

  To find the young victims, investigators carefully studied thousands of photos, read hours of Internet chats and worked with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. They also employed some forensic wizardry.

  After finding a video on Diduca's computer of a bound, 2-year-old boy being raped, investigators enhanced the images of furniture and carpet and determined the attack took place in a motel room in Bakersfield, Calif.

  Then they pinpointed the date by way of a TV that was playing in the background in the video, figuring out exactly when a particular episode of "Family Matters" aired along with a certain Pepperidge Farms commercial.

  A man from Black Forest, Colo., was arrested and is awaiting trial.

  Similarly, in the Arnett case, investigators discovered that a water bottle in one of the photographs carried the name of a swim and scuba center in Overland Park, Kan. With the help of teachers at an elementary school, they identified three children shown in the photographs, including the toddler posed in the roasting pan.

  The mother of one of the boys said she initially did not believe the allegations against Arnett, a family friend for about 15 years. She said her son, now 7, and several nephews often spent weekends at Arnett's home four or five years ago.

  "Well, when we first got the phone call, we thought there's no way. You guys got the wrong guy," she said. The Associated Press does not identify victims of sexual abuse or their families.

  But then investigators showed her photos Arnett had allegedly taken of her son with a shirt and no pants.

  "Regret? For sending my son with a sick-minded guy, that's the only regret I have. I had no idea," she said. "It's depressing."

  For the agents working on the case, the leads never seem to end.

  Last week, they arrested another Massachusetts man after finding child pornography and photos of what appeared to be dead children on his computer. He allegedly had online chats with Arnett and Brown.

  More arrests are expected.

  "The agents that work for me are extremely driven on this type of investigation," said Bart Cahill, assistant agent in charge of Homeland Security Investigations in Boston. "They really believe that they are taking out horrific violators and saving kids."

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  Associated Press writers Maria Sudekum in Kansas City, Mo., and Matt Sedensky in West Palm Beach, Fla., contributed to this report.
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  Secretive "Judicial" Hearings Are Tel...

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  secretive "judicial" hearings are telling .

  watchtower literature depicts the jewish model of judicial hearings as one that involved public hearings.

  insight on the scriptures volume 1 page 475 under the subject city states[1]:.

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  Jehovah's Witnesses and Child Sacrifice

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  jehovahs witnesses and child sacrifice .

  for the most part jehovahs witnesses are viewed in their communities as law abiding citizens and neighborly.

  most of us would never imagine that this religious organization of people teach and promote a theology which, in effect, sacrifices lives, even of children.

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  How to Record a Judicial Meeting

  by 00DAD in

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  introduction: this subject came up on another thread and seemed important enough to justify its own thread:.

  judicial hearing procedure, chapter 7. recording devices.

  "recording devices should not be allowed.

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  Recording Judicial Committee meetings........and having fun!

  by nicolaou in

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  the 'flock' book (elders manual) makes this quite clear and upon arriving at your judicial hearing one of the first questions you will be asked is whether you have any recording/transmitting equipment with you.. however, most jw's will have never seen - or even heard of - the 'flock' book.

  do a search on the wt cd on recording meetings and you will see that it all pertains to the recording of meetings at the kingdom hall and conventions and that any brother wishing to make such recordings is free to do so so long as the recording equipment is not attached to the society's equipment.

  the one question of propriety that is raised has to do with recording prayers.

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  Gosh...I never cared if someone recorded me in a meeting as an elder. I really tried to be compassionate and respectful. But I did hear a few elders say some krazy stuff.

  I will never meet with a JC commitee, personally.( I would draw out any info by phone and send a letter of general denial, requesting to meet any "accuser" prior to the 2 brother inquiry, to handle the misunderstanding "between the publisher and I alone- to iron out any slander or misunderstanding".

  But if someone did decide to attend a meeting, I would record it. Unless you tell them you have a recorder how would they know?

  Recording what was said AFTER you left the room would be incredibly valuable. Who made the accusations. Who was pushing for action etc. That would require a recorder placed in the room PRIOR to any meeting.
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  Do Elders Have A Reasonable Expectation Of Privacy During Judicial Committees?

  by DT in

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  i should point out that i'm not a lawyer and i'm not qualified to give legal advice.. there has been much discussion about judicial committees lately and how to handle and possibly record them.. naturally, the question of the legality of recording judicial committees is a concern.

  my understanding of the law in the u.s. is that it is legal to record private conversations in most states provided at least one party consents to the recording.

  in the other states, it is required to get the consent of all parties to record a private conversation.. however, it would be reasonable to ask whether or not a judicial committee is a private conversation and whether the elders have a reasonable expectation of privacy.

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  Elders work very hard their entire lives to accumulate assets. Goodbye assets if you rely on the WT interests. Few will accept that their interests are opposed to the Society interests. Elders are ordered to do the dirty jobs. I wonder how many elderettes would burst with status if they realized how fragile their economic foundation might be." Well said BOTR