Posts by Whynot

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What makes JDubs so gullible?

by Sour Grapes in

i think that jdubs are so gullible because they can't handle reality and are fully invested in a future paradise earth where there will be no problems.

i hope they can cope with the 1,000 reign of jesus that will have a ton of more problems than what they have now.. they may be gullible also because they like not having to think.

they are told what clothes to wear, what to eat, what type of movies they can see, where to go on vacation, what type of car to drive, what to answer when answering during the watchtower study, what is permissible sex for a married couple, etc..

Whynot

I was a faithful jdub for 25 years and I wouldn't say that I was gullible but I never agreed with a lot of beliefs and congregational procedures. I had several conversations with jdubs about certain things that bothered them or they just had to look away. Most are very inteligent but misguided. We hang on to hope that one day things will change or get better. "Leave it in Jehovah's hands" is what I used to tell myself. It made me feel important to get assignments and I believed that the community was a protection. I was raised to believe that the world would destroy me and I still feel somewhat uncomfortable around non-jdubs. We're programmed to believe that this way of life is superior, special and even though we may have doubts and not understand, this is Jehovah's chosen organization on earth So just suck it up.

I'm still deprogramming and it's hard. I'm glad I woke up and decided that I needed to walk away. It's lije I always had that voice telling me "this is wrong. Wtf is this. Walk away." It took courage to listen to that voice and free myself.

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Do JWs Say They Are Fulfilling Prophetic Bible Prophecies Any Longer?

by minimus in

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every bible book pretty much was applied to the “anointed remnant “.

if a prophet blew his nose it was a fulfillment of a future deed done by the “anointed”.. have they stopped this nonsense?

?.

Whynot

Last time I checked, all prophecies have been fulfilled except for the great tribulation which leads to Armeddon.

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Do Witnesses Experience Racial Discrimination To Your Knowledge?

by minimus in

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my experience in the kingdom hall was that racial discrimination and profiling was not typically practiced....that i know of.

i was in a diverse city with every type of skin color and nationality imaginable.. i’m wondering if the witnesses have changed due to the current affairs exposed by the media everyday.

are there discrimination issues in jw land??

Whynot

YES! OMG YES! I live in the South (Bible Belt) of the USA. My family and I grew up in the Spanish congregation but we're American. I actually experienced more racism in the comgregation than in the world. It's disgraceful! Several of my friends from the south and some from Florida have told me that they raised to beleive that they shouldn't marry outside of their race and marrying a black person is completely unacceptable. These were also raised in "the truth".

I knew 2 interracial couples who married and I asked them what their experience was and hiw much racism or opposition they encountered within the congregation. One couple said that it was a true test of their faith. A lot of jdubs were against it and even refused to speak to them. They even quoted from the Bible saying that it's against Jehivahs will. The other couple only had a few Jdubs who never spoke to them again but they didn't care. But both agreed that it opened their eyes to how many in "the truth" are horrible people and fake worshippers.

I used to be friends with a jdub who stopped attending the Spanish cong. because she "didn't like the culture." She tokd me she was friends with me because I was Americanized lol.

A group of us were trying to start a group in a foreign language and the people in the territory didn't want to continue to come to the English meetings because the white folk made them feel uncomfortable. We knew exactly what they were talking about. They were too indifferent towards us. Treated us differently. A lot of the jdubs in that cong would ask us "why don't they just learn English?" Ugh! It was horrible

Now, I grew up in a different part of the USA where it's a beautiful soup of cultures. It was disturbing to see racism in the cong when I moved to the South.

I haven't been around jdubs in almost a year and I since then have not heard or experienced any racism. It's dispicable! I'm learning to sorround myself with true friends these days and they're not jdubs.

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What Is Exciting About Jehovah’s Witnesses? Anything??

by minimus in

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are they the most boring people on earth?

their music, their videos, their public speaking... all are a big yawn.

there is no life to the witness religion!.

Whynot

Talking about armageddon was the main thing that got people excited, myself included.

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Reading the book of Enoch found some gems.

by Crazyguy in

first off the book of enoch or at least some of it's writings we're found among the dead sea scrolls.

this to me proves that this book was as important to the jews back then as any other.

in the book a few things i noticed.

Whynot

I agree 100%. There are similarities in the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Sumerian creation myths with the book of Genesis. I really enjoy reading ancient myths, I always have. The book of Enoch is one I discovered about 1 year ago and I think it's has some interesting and different point of views than what we're accustomed. Makes you wonder when and why the books we have in the Bible started to be written. Theres's a theory that says that Genesis is just a compilation of other myths that can be considered pagan. It definitely makes you think of what other stories were just inspired by mythology

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Death

by Charles Gillette in

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i often wonder about death.

no one has any idea, do they?

people have speculated since the beginning of time but each original concept of the hereafter as been absurd as the one before.

Whynot

I strongly believe in the afterlife. I'm actually fascinated by the work of Ian Stevenson who has done much research on the afterlife and reincarnation. Also, Brian Weiss and Jim B Tucker. Plus when I was a child my mother happened to ask me where I was before I was born. I gave her some answers that surprised her. I don't remember but she does and so does one my older brothers. My brother was more freaked out by it than my mom.

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Need advice/opinions about DF Husband who woke up

by Whynot in

my husband was df 3 years ago.

i still attended meetings but not regularly and for the past 10 months i have not attended any at all.

my husband wanted to get reinstated until maybe a few months ago when i started to help him to wake up.

Whynot

It would be a mistake for him to get reinstated

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Need advice/opinions about DF Husband who woke up

by Whynot in

my husband was df 3 years ago.

i still attended meetings but not regularly and for the past 10 months i have not attended any at all.

my husband wanted to get reinstated until maybe a few months ago when i started to help him to wake up.

Whynot

My husband told me that he doesn't want to be friends with ANY Jdubs even if he goes back. So, after discussing it with him, he has absolutely no need to be reinstated. He's ready to move on. My friends have cut ties with me which I have come to terms with.

I really don't have any reason to feel attached to the Borg other than the fact that I invested most of my life in it and that my family is still in. I'm certain I need to see a professional to help me let go. Honestly, I just don't believe in it and haven't for a few years.

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Need advice/opinions about DF Husband who woke up

by Whynot in

my husband was df 3 years ago.

i still attended meetings but not regularly and for the past 10 months i have not attended any at all.

my husband wanted to get reinstated until maybe a few months ago when i started to help him to wake up.

Whynot

I do believe we both are emotionally attached to the Borg. He's currently getting professional help but I'm thinking I should as well. This transition has been hard on us. I have acquaintances but have pretty much cut ties with our JW friends. We're both kind of soul searching right now. Trying to find ourselves outside of the Borg.

It doesn't make sense to go back just to be DF again do to our new beliefs. It's just that attachment that's difficult to shake off ugh!

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Need advice/opinions about DF Husband who woke up

by Whynot in

my husband was df 3 years ago.

i still attended meetings but not regularly and for the past 10 months i have not attended any at all.

my husband wanted to get reinstated until maybe a few months ago when i started to help him to wake up.

Whynot

My husband was DF 3 years ago. I still attended meetings but not regularly and for the past 10 months I have not attended any at all. My husband wanted to get reinstated until maybe a few months ago when I started to help him to wake up.

Now, I think it would be good for him to get reinstated then fade out amd he wanted thus as well. But now he doesn't. The reason I think it would be good for him is because he has depression.

He doesn't have ANY friends. Not even his co-workers are his friends. I worry about hus mental health but he thinks it's best to just never go back. I guess I'm just not ready to leave it behind 100%.

I feel really confused and don't know what to think. Help!