Posts by Whynot

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Do you still want to be identified as a Christian?

by eyeuse2badub in

most americans want some form of religious identity - even atheists are creating churches.

by j. warner wallace | fox news.

the number of self-proclaimed christians is shrinking in america.. i’ve been collecting data on this trend for over 10 years, and the surveys reveal an important truth: fewer people claim a christian affiliation than ever before, and those who claim no religious affiliation are the fastest growing group in america.. but while fewer people may belong to christian churches or communities, americans will likely retain some form of religious identity – especially if what’s happening in europe is an indicator of things to come.. a new pew forum survey conducted in western europe reveals that christianity is waning there even faster than it is in the united states.

Whynot

I still lean towards Christ. But I have also found the beauty in Eastern religions, philosophy and spirituality in general. I actually like the idea of an atheist "church" lol. It sounds fun!

I just don't believe that we need the Bible or religion to have a rewarding life and be the best version of ourselves. But I do have the need to find like-minded people. The need for support and community.

I live in the Bible belt and pretty much EVERYONE goes to church on Sundays. Everyone is religious and they own god lol. I wouldn't attend any churches around here but an atheist church sounds interesting.

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How do you feel you have progressed ?

by stuckinarut2 in

in the months or years since leaving the organization, how do you think you have progressed as a person?.

(or if you have regressed too i guess?).

what aspects of personal development are you happy with?.

Whynot

Jo-Ho

Thank you so much for your kind words. I cried a little from relief and hope. Thank you!

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Do You Ever Wish That Hillary Was President?

by minimus in

jw
friends

hillary is very supportive of doing whatever it takes to undermine trump.

would you be happy if she were your president?.

Whynot

No. I don't like Trump but I dislike Clinton even more.

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How do you feel you have progressed ?

by stuckinarut2 in

in the months or years since leaving the organization, how do you think you have progressed as a person?.

(or if you have regressed too i guess?).

what aspects of personal development are you happy with?.

Whynot

I guess sometimes I get mad at myself because I KNEW a lot of this stuff but chose to go along because I didn't want to lose my family, my friends, my reputation, I kept telling myself things would improve, just wait upon Jehovah he will clear things up. I guess I still feel like I'm finding myself.

I have improved in the sense that I empathize more. I realize now that I can be a wonderful human without the bible or religion. I feel like I'm a more spiritual person than I was before.

I have regressed because I lost ALL my friends. I have to start over. I somehow feel like I need a new objective or purpose in my life. I still want to help people. I just don't know whuch route to take.

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Anyone ever know gays in the hall that are lying to them selfs or others?

by blownaway in

i know of three situations i saw myself.

the first one was when i lived in arcadia.

all the people i use names on are dead and gone so no probs.

Whynot

There are plenty of gay people in the organization. I really don't understand how they can put up with the anti-gay remarks at the meetings. I know 1 who got married and had a child. I don't know if he's still in. Poor guy. Another was in bethel for 20 years. Nice guy! He was very handsome and well-mannered. I really liked him. He left bethel, came out of closet but was still in. But 3 years afterwards he left for good. One of my ex's came out of the closet. I had absolutely no idea lol. He got baptized young. And of course you see those very close couples in the congregation who spend waaaay too much time together and have sleepovers even though their married. People accuse them but when confronted they deny, deny, deny. Oh well. Are their husbands really that clueless? Lol

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The biggest news of the year for Mr. and Mrs. Totally ADD

by Still Totally ADD in

jw
friends

this is bigger than christmas and birthdays wrap into one.

thanks to the australian royal commission our youngest son has woke up.

we received a e-mail from him tonight where he apologized to us for shunning us all these years, how bad he felt for doing this.

Whynot

This is beautiful news!

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what as your first jolt that started your wake up process?

by yourmomma in

jw
friends

you know when you are in a deep sleep and something happens that may put you on a different level of sleeping, not as deep.

anyway, then i thought, 90 minutes for lunch?

so, there is a group waiting to cross the street.

Whynot

It was gradual for me. I started having my own opinions opposite the Watchtower after pioneer school with the generation change. I didn't actually truly wake up until I had a conversation with a PIMO. It was perfect timing too. I was having a lot of doubts and we discussed them. He was a long time trusted friend.

So don't lose hope.

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What is the most troubling or disturbing biblical passage you ever had to rationalise when a Jw?

by stuckinarut2 in

now that we have stepped away from the jw faith, how do you feel about the bible itself?.

what about those awkward sections of scripture?

how did you rationalise or justify those sections?.

Whynot

The one where a Levite man had a concubine, they traveled to a town where the men wanted to have sex with him. To get them to quiet down the man they were staying with threw out his concubine to the crowd. In the morning she was found dead. The levite man proceeds to cut her up and pass out her body parts to the tribes of Israel. This triggered the isrealites to start a war against the tribe of Benjamin since the men who raped her were from that tribe.

This is from Judges 19.

I read this when I was like 12 years old and it gave me nightmares. I was sick to my stomach for days.

The story where Lots daughters have sex with their father also disturbed me deeply when I read it I think I was 11 or 12.

More recently, I was studying with my son and came across the scripture where Abraham tries to kill Isaac and THAT's when I decided I wasn't going to study with him like this. The story has a different meaning when you have your own kids. I mean, even before kids it is very disturbing but now it's like...

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what will be the next thing

by pepperheart in

hi what will be the next thing that watchtower will cut,if you say the leaked video that fay put up the finance guy from the watchtower was saying that they had spent $26 million in about 6 months.

so if they are getting through money that fast then they are going to have problems.

Whynot

COs also do account audits. In any business, you need someone to do this

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Does anyone know of this guy, or agree with his statements on racial differences in IQ?

by Sugar Shane in

here are some quotes by the guy, from his youtube channel.

his name is stefan molyneux, and he’s apparently popular among the alt-right crowd.

he’s also widely quoted on these discussion boards, by certain ex-jws, who use him to help promote their political views.

Whynot

IQs don't equal success imo. My husband and I aren't white, my husband is 1/8 black and he was an honor student. He learns very fast it's amazing. But he's an idiot and makes A LOT of mistakes.

My son has an IQ of 117 BUT he did terrible in school and has dysgraphia and developmental delays so WTF is up with that?! My toddler ALSO has a very hIgh IQ. He can literally memorize a whole movie or book after just watching/reading just 3 times. He can read and he's only three! BUT he is considered disabled and is on ssi because of his devlopmental delays . So WTF!

HOW IN THE HELL IS THEIR IQ HIGH YET THEY HAVE DEVELOPMENTAL DELAYS???!!! They also have autism.

I couldn't get a good explanation from their developmental psychologist nor their developmental pediatrician.