Posts by Whynot

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If the Gov. where you live outlawed the JWs would you turn in your family?

by blownaway in

i guess it would depend for me.

some of my family i would take out bill boards pointing to them.

many of the elders it would be he is over there and set off a neon sign.

i think my last post i said i went to a new congregation,i'm going to just talk about some of the shit i have seen in my congregation.. there was a kid trying to talk to a adult next to him i think it was his dad,the kid just started taping him because he wanted to tell him something and the dad gets mad then boom the kid gets elbowed.i look around to see if anyone saw him do that to his kid and nope or they didn't want to say anything about it and just like wtf.. in my old congregation,the younger kids would do random stuff in the middle of the meeting to not get board.

when the mom or dad got mad i would see then get dragged to the back of the kingdom hall and hear them start crying.when i was still mentally in i just didnt think about it at all when it would happen but when i woke up im just like thats fucked up..

Whynot

The reason I stopped going to the meetings was because my kids are sooo freakin loud and crazy. Special needs kids and I refused to spank them. Well, the elders decided to do a local needs about making your children sit quietly during the meetings. The elder who gave the talk doesn't even have children! He encouraged parents to take their children to the bathroom and discipline them to get them to sit quietly. No thank you!

I spoke to other Jehovah's Witnesses parents of special needs children and they talked about the lack of understanding within the organization when it comes to our kids. One JW said it's eaier to be Catholic in our situation. Everyone in the kingdom hall thinks we can just spank it out of them, really? A lot of these parents don't even go to any of the conventions it's too much of a burden.

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Anyone pissed at their parents for raising you in the cult?

by blownaway in

my mother was not the most emotionally stable person.

she was a follower and instilled in me the idea we were better than those worldly people.

its hard to go to school as a child and you can not be friends outside of school, you can not celebrate any holidays, and you are told all these people are going to die.

Whynot

I absolutely love my parents. But I can't blame them. It just doesn't make sense to blame them.

My mom came from an extremely poor family. Her father abandoned her and her 7 sisters for about 5 years. They had no idea where he was. Her mother never went to school so they all had to work. My mother started working as a child milking cattle, picking cotton, cleaning, taking care of kids. As a child she didnt celebrate religious holidays and the only thing she got for Christmas each year was a pair of shoes snd a meal. Men took advantage of them sexually. She was smart and learned English and immigrated to America at 16 and started working. She was able to take care of her family. She was sooo broken and still is. I feel sorry for her more than anything.

My father was raised by raging alcoholics with anger issues. He was abandoned several times and his teenage brother had to steal food to feed his 8 siblings. My father started working at 7 years if age or else he would starve to death. He hated holidays and birthdays because only the rich kids got gifts. He was suicidal most of his life and used to physically abuse my mom. The witnesses also provided hope for him.

More than anything I feel sorry for them. I can completely understand why they are still in the religion. I appreciate them for not shunning my DF husband and myself for being inactive. Honestly they have nothing else going for them. They love the attention and admiration they get since they have low self-esteem and are also narcicistic.

Sure, I wish things could have been different. But one thing I am pissed about is the fact that they gave up EVERYTHING to serve the organization. They sold their business, house and we lived off the government just so they can pioneer. THAT is what I'm pissed about. They were regular Jehovah's Witnesses but others started accusing them of being materialistic and should be pioneering etc. They fell for it and we all suffered. Our health suffered. It was horrible!

I am saddened by the fact that this was the only option for them to find happiness. They didn't have much opportunity for anything else unfortunately.

I am happy that my father encouraged me to study, do research and not believe everything I'm told at the meetings. This was the start of me having doubts, asking crazy questions. He loved it whenever I questioned anything in the publications. He never gave me an answer but he would encourage me to check it out at the library. So in way, I owe it to him for where I am.

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Since You Left The Organization Do You Celebrate National and Religious Holidays?

by minimus in

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friends

i know of people who were disciplined because they observed the fourth of july fireworks celebration.

and i know many people who celebrated thanksgiving but just didn’t call it that because they could get into trouble with the elders.. do you now celebrate birthdays and other holidays or is that something you really don’t care about?

?.

Whynot

We're celebrating a birthday this weekend. Never done this before. My husband doesn't feel comfortable though. Yet he's been DF for years and I'm a fader.

I don't see myself doing most holidays because I feel they're religious. My husband and I have talked about starting new family traditions in place of holidays.

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Gehenna

by Leolaia in

as john day discusses in his book on the god moloch, it is well known that in jewish literature and in the nt, gehenna is a term for the fiery portion of the underworld where the resurrected dead are destined to be punished (e.g.

4 ezra 7:36; 2 baruch 59:10, 85:13; mark 9:43, 45, 47), and gehenna itself derives from the aramaic name for the valley of hinnom, gehinnam, the valley to the southeast of jerusalem.

as an eschatological term, gehenna is constantly associated with fires that bring punishment to the wicked.

Whynot

Fascinating! I had no idea. I never evrn thought about doing research on this subject. Thank you!

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Thomas Jefferson And John Adams Both Died 4th of July Same Day

by Brokeback Watchtower in

they were the 2nd and 3rd presidents who both died the same day 07/04/1826 within 5 hours of each other.

adams who had a death bed vision declared 'jefferson lives' and then died.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9heuwozwvk4.

Whynot

Great video. I agree that both political parties should make an effort to understand each others point of views.

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Do Jehovah's Witnesses fulfill Matthew 24:14?

by jwdoctrine in

do witnesses fulfill matthew 24:14?.

(youtube video link above).

Whynot

If you compare the missionary/preaching activities of other religions with the JWs you will see that Baptist do more, convert more than JWs.

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Proof of God

by MrDantastic in

i'm an atheist as i do not see any evidence for the existance of a god.

i encourage critical thinking in everyone and am ready to debate anyone on whether or not there is a god and what that god might be like.

hmu..

Whynot

@galaxie to be honest there isn't any hard evidence that I can prove. It could just be a strong coincidence.

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Proof of God

by MrDantastic in

i'm an atheist as i do not see any evidence for the existance of a god.

i encourage critical thinking in everyone and am ready to debate anyone on whether or not there is a god and what that god might be like.

hmu..

Whynot

I used to be an atheist. I don't believe in the bible. In my honest opinion I think it's very difficult to debate the existence of god. There were, and still are things that happen in my life that I cannot explain. Personally, I don't see god as an actual person. It's hard to explain and it's even more difficult to debate. The reasons I believe in god are very personal to me. My husband will test me and ask for certain things to happen, I will do my meditation prayer and within days it happens. Like I said it's very personal to me. And yes I have been evaluated by a psychiatrist and no I don't have psychosis.

Now I just need to figure out how I can win the lottery lol

Because I used to be an atheist I can completely understand why anyone wouldn't believe in god. A lot of times I feel that it's better to not believe in god since, well, there's soooo much suffering and injustice in the world. The best explanation for some people is that there is no god or if there is he doesn't care for us. I don't try to convince anyone there is a god.

For me personally, I see and feel the divine power and I'm grateful for it.

I also want to say that you don't need god to be a decent human being. You don't need a book or religion to be happy and be the best version of yourself. So honestly, the belief in a god isn't really important imo.

My belief in god is very different from the bible. It's more like Budhism and Sikhsm. Because I was raised as a JW I still refer to this divine power as YHWH. But I have been catching myself refering to it as Eternal Power more and more.

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Jehovah's Witnesses worship a pagan god derived from the ancient Canaanite civilization

by Finkelstein in

historians of ancient history along with bible scholars have found from where the ancient hebrews acquired their god yhwh .. el was the all powerful god of the canaanites which the hebrews converted mostly to a monotheist style of worship for themselves.. apparently their were ancient civilizations that predated the canaanites as well .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnpaoappiqm.

Whynot

Thanks Cobweb!

Smiddy3, in the 9th JW broadcasting they also openly admitted to the innacurate pronunciation of Jehovah. It's very embarassing lol