Posts by Whynot

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Paranormal stuff: is it a cultural thing? Rant ahead

by Whynot in

paranormal stuff is common where my family is from it's almost expected.

native american background, my great grandmother was a witch doctor a damn good one too, my non witness relatives dabble in it.

so i have seen stuff and experienced stuff.

Whynot

Joey Jojo, the only drugs I have ever taken were for my cesareans and pain afterwards for pain management like ibuprofen. Occassionally I take antibiotics if I have an infection. I did worry years ago that I had psychosis but doctors have always confirmed that I don't have this.

I would love to cash in on this but I have absolutely no idea how. My personal experiences are unpredictable and happen maybe a few times a year. I don't have the funds to publish scientific research or get it peer reviewed. Although, I know there are researchers on such cases but their research, even though professionally done, keeps getting rejected. No one gives them a shot like Jim Tucker.

There are still a lot of things science cannot explain but I love seeing how there are scientists that are stepping out of the box trying to explain "weird" concepts. Like teleportation, reincarnation, communicating with people who are in comas, transferring memories from one animal to another. These are crazy ideas that are actually being studied. I'm hoping this can open the minds of other scientists and not be so narrowminded.

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Are most Jdubs narcicistic? Does the religion breed narcicistic behaviors?

by Whynot in

https://pro.psychcentral.com/exhausted-woman/2015/05/15-narcissistic-religious-abuse-tactics/.

i read the above posted article and it made me wonder how many narcicistic people join the borg because it fits well with their personality.

i also wonder if being indoctrinated makes you become narcicistic.

Whynot

https://pro.psychcentral.com/exhausted-woman/2015/05/15-narcissistic-religious-abuse-tactics/

I read the above posted article and it made me wonder how many narcicistic people join the Borg because it fits well with their personality. I also wonder if being indoctrinated makes you become narcicistic.

Before I started to fade I began to notice that I was very judgemental and kind of an a**hole but I remember feeling like it was a good thing. I have decided to change but I feel like I still have some narcicistic traits. I always felt that I learned these behaviors from my parents since they are hardcore narcicists and so are my siblings. But now I think I also learned it from pretty much being raised around a bunch of narcicistic jdubs.

I'm convinced the GB definitely has all these traits and they display it in the wt articles with all the BS they say.

I'm still processing the information in this article. My husband is DFed and used to be an elder and he is extremely narcicistic as well as his father who also got DFed. And OMG! I am trying to be a better person and it seems like I couldn't accomplish this while being a jdub.

What has been everyone else's experiences?

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Paranormal stuff: is it a cultural thing? Rant ahead

by Whynot in

paranormal stuff is common where my family is from it's almost expected.

native american background, my great grandmother was a witch doctor a damn good one too, my non witness relatives dabble in it.

so i have seen stuff and experienced stuff.

Whynot

Mr. Flipper I'm happy you responded. My dfed husband used to be an elder and he feels that if I tell other jdubs about my spiritual experiences and intuitive insights I would get dfed immediately. I am a fader and I want to avoid getting dfed for now. My mother, who is a pioneer is very intuitive and sometimes gets premonitions, she sometimes talks about it but has become more fearful about it getting to the wrong ears.

I have to say that I'm jealous of how intuitive you are and how your deceased relatives have communicated with you. That's pretty awesome! I don't think I'm emotionally ready for that yet but that would be really nice.

Since I started to think for myself I have been able to quiet my mind enough to experience new and different perspectives about life, spirituality and what it means to be in this existence. I sometimes get scared of these new insights but I'm hoping to expand on them.

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Paranormal stuff: is it a cultural thing? Rant ahead

by Whynot in

paranormal stuff is common where my family is from it's almost expected.

native american background, my great grandmother was a witch doctor a damn good one too, my non witness relatives dabble in it.

so i have seen stuff and experienced stuff.

Whynot

Paranormal stuff is common where my family is from it's almost expected. Native American background, my great grandmother was a witch doctor a damn good one too, my non witness relatives dabble in it. So I have seen stuff and experienced stuff. I don"t like it especially when I'm sleeping. Anyway, where my family is from it's absolutely normal and actually expected. Nothing like depicted in movies though. That stuff is beyond anything we have ever heard or seen personally. It's taken more as humor and fascination than anything else.

Now, is it just me or do American Jdubs absolutely freak out like really, really bad about these kind of things. It seems to the point where they even overreact and exaggerate their fears. It's like a terror. For example, it's common for people from my culture to communicate with demons, they know they're demons and they're ok with it. Now, when I moved to the English and told a brother this he absolutely freaked out and told a bunch of others who also freaked out.

Another time, a sister was studying with a family whom she claimed the house had demons or was haunted. My husband and I got curious and visited that family and we didn't see anything like she had described. My husband and I concluded that she's crazy lol.

In the Spanish congregation, jdubs stay away ofcourse but they have a more relaxed view on it as well. It's more humor like "hey! Check out what happened to me this one time hahaha... hold my tequila."

Now, I'm not talking about demon posession or santeria because that stuff is very, very creepy and that"s where I absolutely have to walk away. Ouiji boards and tarot cards aren't something my non-jdub relatives dabble with either. That creeps us out too.

Anyway, is it a cultural difference? Has anyone else here seen the difference of Jdubs attitude according to their culture or country of origin?

I could be asking this on the wrong forum since I know a lot of you are atheist.

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What makes JDubs so gullible?

by Sour Grapes in

i think that jdubs are so gullible because they can't handle reality and are fully invested in a future paradise earth where there will be no problems.

i hope they can cope with the 1,000 reign of jesus that will have a ton of more problems than what they have now.. they may be gullible also because they like not having to think.

they are told what clothes to wear, what to eat, what type of movies they can see, where to go on vacation, what type of car to drive, what to answer when answering during the watchtower study, what is permissible sex for a married couple, etc..

Whynot

I was a faithful jdub for 25 years and I wouldn't say that I was gullible but I never agreed with a lot of beliefs and congregational procedures. I had several conversations with jdubs about certain things that bothered them or they just had to look away. Most are very inteligent but misguided. We hang on to hope that one day things will change or get better. "Leave it in Jehovah's hands" is what I used to tell myself. It made me feel important to get assignments and I believed that the community was a protection. I was raised to believe that the world would destroy me and I still feel somewhat uncomfortable around non-jdubs. We're programmed to believe that this way of life is superior, special and even though we may have doubts and not understand, this is Jehovah's chosen organization on earth So just suck it up.

I'm still deprogramming and it's hard. I'm glad I woke up and decided that I needed to walk away. It's lije I always had that voice telling me "this is wrong. Wtf is this. Walk away." It took courage to listen to that voice and free myself.

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Do JWs Say They Are Fulfilling Prophetic Bible Prophecies Any Longer?

by minimus in

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every bible book pretty much was applied to the “anointed remnant “.

if a prophet blew his nose it was a fulfillment of a future deed done by the “anointed”.. have they stopped this nonsense?

?.

Whynot

Last time I checked, all prophecies have been fulfilled except for the great tribulation which leads to Armeddon.

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Do Witnesses Experience Racial Discrimination To Your Knowledge?

by minimus in

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my experience in the kingdom hall was that racial discrimination and profiling was not typically practiced....that i know of.

i was in a diverse city with every type of skin color and nationality imaginable.. i’m wondering if the witnesses have changed due to the current affairs exposed by the media everyday.

are there discrimination issues in jw land??

Whynot

YES! OMG YES! I live in the South (Bible Belt) of the USA. My family and I grew up in the Spanish congregation but we're American. I actually experienced more racism in the comgregation than in the world. It's disgraceful! Several of my friends from the south and some from Florida have told me that they raised to beleive that they shouldn't marry outside of their race and marrying a black person is completely unacceptable. These were also raised in "the truth".

I knew 2 interracial couples who married and I asked them what their experience was and hiw much racism or opposition they encountered within the congregation. One couple said that it was a true test of their faith. A lot of jdubs were against it and even refused to speak to them. They even quoted from the Bible saying that it's against Jehivahs will. The other couple only had a few Jdubs who never spoke to them again but they didn't care. But both agreed that it opened their eyes to how many in "the truth" are horrible people and fake worshippers.

I used to be friends with a jdub who stopped attending the Spanish cong. because she "didn't like the culture." She tokd me she was friends with me because I was Americanized lol.

A group of us were trying to start a group in a foreign language and the people in the territory didn't want to continue to come to the English meetings because the white folk made them feel uncomfortable. We knew exactly what they were talking about. They were too indifferent towards us. Treated us differently. A lot of the jdubs in that cong would ask us "why don't they just learn English?" Ugh! It was horrible

Now, I grew up in a different part of the USA where it's a beautiful soup of cultures. It was disturbing to see racism in the cong when I moved to the South.

I haven't been around jdubs in almost a year and I since then have not heard or experienced any racism. It's dispicable! I'm learning to sorround myself with true friends these days and they're not jdubs.

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What Is Exciting About Jehovah’s Witnesses? Anything??

by minimus in

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are they the most boring people on earth?

their music, their videos, their public speaking... all are a big yawn.

there is no life to the witness religion!.

Whynot

Talking about armageddon was the main thing that got people excited, myself included.

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Reading the book of Enoch found some gems.

by Crazyguy in

first off the book of enoch or at least some of it's writings we're found among the dead sea scrolls.

this to me proves that this book was as important to the jews back then as any other.

in the book a few things i noticed.

Whynot

I agree 100%. There are similarities in the Epic of Gilgamesh and the Sumerian creation myths with the book of Genesis. I really enjoy reading ancient myths, I always have. The book of Enoch is one I discovered about 1 year ago and I think it's has some interesting and different point of views than what we're accustomed. Makes you wonder when and why the books we have in the Bible started to be written. Theres's a theory that says that Genesis is just a compilation of other myths that can be considered pagan. It definitely makes you think of what other stories were just inspired by mythology

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Death

by Charles Gillette in

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i often wonder about death.

no one has any idea, do they?

people have speculated since the beginning of time but each original concept of the hereafter as been absurd as the one before.

Whynot

I strongly believe in the afterlife. I'm actually fascinated by the work of Ian Stevenson who has done much research on the afterlife and reincarnation. Also, Brian Weiss and Jim B Tucker. Plus when I was a child my mother happened to ask me where I was before I was born. I gave her some answers that surprised her. I don't remember but she does and so does one my older brothers. My brother was more freaked out by it than my mom.