I was just discussing this with my husband last week. I went to My Jewish Learning and beliefnet to see what they say about satan. Christians and Jews definitely have different views on the matter.
I also found these links helpful
over the years i have come across different writings that suggest a total difference in how the chosen people of israel and the jewish religion of today with the "old testament" viewed "satan" and how the many of christendoms religions including the jehovah`s witnesses view satan in the bible .. they seem to be at odds with each other ?.
does the christian greek scriptures " new testament" contradict the hebrew scriptures of the "old testament " about who or what satan is ?.
the israelite`s /jews were gods chosen people for 4,000 years wouldn`t /shouldn`t they know better about satan than the christian religion that usurped the jewish religion ?.
I was just discussing this with my husband last week. I went to My Jewish Learning and beliefnet to see what they say about satan. Christians and Jews definitely have different views on the matter.
I also found these links helpful
firstly, i want to be crystal clear how grateful i am for jwn.
it's been my place of support for over seventeen years and it's the first online space i direct anyone to if they are taking steps out of the cult.
i am not bashing jwn - i love this place and appreciate the hard work and expense simon puts in to keep it going.
Can't we all just get along?
btw There are a lot of immigrants in this forum
i have noticed a paradigm shift on this site .
we used to be able to express opposing viewpoints without being subjected to name calling and censorship.
i wish we could return to how the board used to function.
Thank you
has anyone noticed at the convention that there is special reserved seating?
the convention that i attended (to keep peace in the family) had seating in the suites of the arena.
all arenas, stadiums etc.
My brother gets to sit there. He's an elder and takes care of the donations and some other stuff I can't remember.
look at what is happening in europe now, the filth that is trying to enter here.. https://youtu.be/putezss32m8.
uk.... https://youtu.be/jbvxndnd4t4.
This should help give you a headstart
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59af6b10e4b0d0c16bb528ab/amp
look at what is happening in europe now, the filth that is trying to enter here.. https://youtu.be/putezss32m8.
uk.... https://youtu.be/jbvxndnd4t4.
Krismalone you are wrong on so many levels. Please do some research. Personally, I filled out hundreds of DACA applications and you are spreading false information.
Everyone else who agrees with him, please don't say anything unless you kniw the facts. Do some research. You guys are giving me a headache
this is related to a comment i made in a previous thread.
cults exist in many diverse parts of society.
this includes politics.
I have seen cultish behaviors on both sides. But since I live in Trump country here down south, wow! These people really worship him. They defend him even when he does crazy stuff. They are not open minded at all. 90% support Trump even after you explain the laws to them and how the system works (I do work for an immigration office).
As far as JWs go, it IS common for them to fall into a cultish substitute. It's explained well in The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse and Combating Cult Mind Control. It's the same reason people leave abusive relationships and go into another abusive relationship but yet in their head it's not the same. They convince themseves it's not the same but the abuse is there.
Personally, I have cut off people for decades if they say anything racist or steriotypical. At first I do my best to educate them since I have mixed cultural backround, mostly Native American, if they still have racists views then I avoid them completely. I can put up with anything but if someone believes people from other countries are lesser human beings or have less rights, NO. I can't be around these kind of people. It goes against everything I believe and everything I value. I myself have been mistreated on various occasions for the way I look even though I'm very American.
The sad thing is that people have been more open about their racism since Trump got elected so I get more stares and comments. It's NOT political anymore, it's a moral issue. They don't think they're racist either!
i think it’s ridiculous to kick people and families out of a restaurant because of politics.
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I wouldn't kick her out of my business.
I say we ship out ALL people in the USA who leech off the system whether they're citizens or not. I can't tell you how many US citizens encouraged me to lie on my food stamp application and other stuff. Most time it's the office workers themselves that tell me "don't put that as income you will get denied".
i would like to think there was some good that resulted from our being a witness at one time..
The morals I was raised with are also cultural. My non-JW family were also raised to avoid alcoholism, gambling, theft etc. I actually have pretty awesome cousins, uncles and aunts and they are not in the cult. I'm actually very jealous of them because they went to college and have a good balance of family and career. So I can't say it made me personally a better person.
Now, maybe it helped me meet a lot of people and kept me busy on the weekends. I wasn't allowed to go out unless I was preaching.
yesterday, i had an epiphany.
i realized that the jw religion made my experience in school awful and i hated school because of this.. yesterday, my kids had an activity where the whole school was out at the park, playing baseball, soccer, other pic-nic games and even swimming pools.
during the day, i had conversations with the teachers and saw the kids out, playing having fun.
Omg! Yes! I used to get severe stomach cramps as soon as I would see the school building. It was a nightmare. Also, being told that they were all going to die at Armageddon. Anytime I made a friend I was always reminded of their impending death unless I helped them become a witness. Ugh! How horrible to say this to a child. I felt so different already and being a JW just made it worse. I cant remember how many times I had to excuse myself from holiday activities during class. No wonder my stomach always hurt.