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  Was the ransom premature? Shouldn't the effects of Adamic sin have been reversed at the time of Jesus' death?

  by deegee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if the ransom was paid at the time of jesus' death (mark 15:45, matthew 20:28, 1 timothy 2:6, hebrews 2:9), then why weren't the effects of adamic sin (sickness & death) reversed at that time?.

  it seems to me that either:- the payment of the ransom was premature.

  - god was not satisfied with the payment of the ransom; it was not sufficient to make up for adam's & eve's so-called "sin".hasn't god extracted enough from mankind as payment for adam's & eve's "sin" given the billions of persons who have lived and died?.

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  For Christian religions, it was paid and is in effect. Remember, they all believe that accepting Jesus as their lord and savior results in going to heaven upon death.
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  My presentation (new one here!)

  by Skepsis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i registered in the board and i wanted to present myself.. i used to visit this forum some time ago and even register an account but then i tried to convince myself all was ok in the congregation.

  now, i'm coming back :).

  i live in a southern european nation, i'm a young jw, a good example in the congregation serving as a regular pioneer and ms. for all in the congregation i'm the good guy, one of the best examples in the area i live.

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  Skepsis - It's not easy, but it gets easier once you are all the way out.
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  How many times did you see a JW start a business

  by karter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with the intention of spending less time working and more time in f.s i saw this many times.

  an ex c.o started a carpet cleaning business with the charter being spending less time working more time in f.s.

  he has long since passed away and the company is now huge being the major player in flood resteration and employing 100's of people one of the owners i spoke to recently was sick due to using to many chemicals but carries on becouse he loves the money even though he's worth millions.

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  I can't count the number of brothers I knew who started businesses, but only 1 to spend more time in the ministry.

  Right out of high school I worked at 3 different jobs, all businesses owned by brothers.

  My dad was usually self employed the last business he ran would have made him millions, but he wanted to spend more time in the ministry. Now he has nothing to take care of himself and my mother because of it.
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  Awkward exchange with my JW sister in law regarding the circle of life

  by TTWSYF in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so we were at another family members home for a random celebration when the nature channel showed a killer whale eating a seal and my sister in law was horrified.

  we made a joke about the circle of life and i said something along the lines of 'everything that lives must die, the bible says every king must die, so even jesus wasn't immune'.

  after that comment there was an awkward silence with our jw family whispering to each other about my comment of dying.. once upon a time i asked my uber elder jw brother if he thought that he would not die and he asked me if i knew when god would start armageddon.

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  The lie of everlasting life and shunning are the two pillars of the organization.
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  "West World" and The Jehovah Witnesses

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sitting there watching the new hbo series last night, i couldn't help but laugh and think about the similarities.

  the creators (the gods) and the hosts (their creations) have an interesting relationship.. the "hosts" are programmed to have free thinking but only up to a point.

  just like the witnesses.

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  A fair and accurate comparison.
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  Entertainment: What's everybody reading or into right now?

  by schnell in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i picked up bernard cornwell's the pagan lord at the library.

  historical fiction set in england after the death of alfred the great.

  i'm loving it, especially the between-the-lines wit and sense of timing in cornwell's writing, and the complete badassery of the protagonist.

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  West World on HBO is my show right now.

  Reading "13 Hours".
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  So, how did the 'beard article' go over yesterday at your congregation?

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at mine the conductor was somewhat awkward and minimal and there were nervous chuckles from the audience.

  two people, including an elder, gave reasonable comments that it's okay as long as it's not extreme styles, etc.

  but then another one of the elders commented that nothing has changed and they still aren't proper locally.

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  How can something be acceptable geographically? Either Jehovah accepts it or not.
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  Proverbs 4:18 "light gets brighter"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we are all familiar with the classic use by the society of proverbs 4:18 about "light getting brighter".

  they say it applies to revealed truth, and doctrinal changes etc.. have you ever just read that chapter (and even the surrounding chapters) in full??.

  it has nothing to do with doctrinal changes or teachings.. it has to do with acquiring wisdom and life skills in order to live a successful life.

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  Even if the scripture meant what the organization says it does, the doctrine is not applied accordingly.

  I always appreciated this comparison -

  Light getting brighter (what it means)

  I see an object. It looks like a car. It's a 4-door sedan. It's a blue 4-door sedan. It's a blue Toyota sedan.

  Light getting brighter (as it really happens with the WBTS)

  Jesus said drive a car. Jesus said drive a 4-door sedan. Jesus said drive a Cadillac. A Cadillac is a showy display of one's means, so drive a Ford Focus. Jesus walked everywhere he went, so don't drive - walk!
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  "It's a cult, mom."

  by schnell in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my mom has been extensively texting me, trying to argue that the un ngo scandal is not a big deal and that the child abuse scandal is to instigate the great tribulation.

  even worse, she kept saying how great it is that the gb is imperfect and fallible and that teaching changes all the time.

  maybe it was aggravation or impatience, but i finally just snapped and told her, "it's a cult, mom.".

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  Shunning = cult.

  If its the truth, why fear criticism?

  Fear. Fear of isolation via shunning, fear of death at Armageddon, fear of no resurrection is at the root of such behavior.
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  Watchtower's "New Light" re Babylonish Captivity, November 2016 WT

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has anyone noticed the wt's most recent shell-game revisionism in the november study tractazine, relating to the shifting of its "babylonish captivity" doctrine, from a 3 1/2-year period around the ww 1 years, to a period now spanning about 16 centuries, or from the 4th century (constantine's legal recognition of christianity) to 1919?.

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  That's news to me. Then again, I haven't picked up a Watchtower in over a decade.

  Nothing ceases to amaze with the world class flip-flopping WTBS.

  Remember - they are self-proclaimed imperfect people who are not spirit inspired and get things wrong on a regular basis. However, you better believe what they say as Truth or you'll never see you family again.