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  Who’s gonna mow your grass

  by solomon in

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  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xixc6aqrozq.

  what most jehovah’s witnesses don’t realize about their version of the new system is who’s gonna mow the grass?.

  after the system is destroyed who’s gonna make that nail your pounding with a hammer?

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  Life in the New World will be old school good, clean livin'!

  
  
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  Useless Majors

  by Sea Breeze in

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  2. friends

  i was passing through a very liberal college town recently during rush hour.

  so, i decided to stop for some refreshment at a fine-looking establishment and wait for traffic to die down.

  a young waitress waited on me who probably could have been stevie nicks twin when she was young.

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  I'd buy and read a book on pre-historic agriculture. I would even take a class with some hands-on training under that topic. I would not accrue massive student loan debt for it.

  I think a big reality goes with this phrase - "Those who cannot do teach."

  It seems certain degree programs set the students up to simply keep the program alive. Even then, how many professors of pre-historic agriculture are needed?

  P.S.

  If anyone find a book on pre-historic agriculture please send me the title and author. Thanks!
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  Dumb 'experiences' you were told as a JW

  by BettyHumpter in

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  this one stands out in my mind.

  it was reported that 'a brother', unnamed of course, was out in field service and was set upon by a pack of vicious dogs.

  he made it back to the car and was injured quite badly with his arms, hands and leg bleeding heavily.

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  truth_b_known

  Nothing like washing down a frozen chocolate pudding than with a high-sodium Shasta Twist. Keep those JW experiences salty!
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  Did becoming a JW influence you to give up something you enjoyed ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when i was a teenager a younger fellow workmate was involved in the sport of judo.i got interested and went along to a number of sessions and took to it like a sponge to water ,and as a sport i was happy participating in.. not that much longer another workmate was getting re-activated in the religion of jw`s.

  which i had never heard o before and then got interested in that .. conflict : was judo a sport that was compatible with j.w beliefs?

  sadly i decided it was not and stopped any further involvement.. to this day i resent that decision i made back then .and i`m 82 years old now.. it was a sport i was comfortable doing and i enjoyed it.and i gave it up because of the religion .who knows what i may have achieved had i continued with it.

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  Smiddy3:

  Here's something funny about the Watchtower and Judo - I took Judo as well as a Witness. I found an Awake! article entitled "Take Judo!" So I did.

  The problem is the constant flip-flopping on things like this. One day it's "Take Judo!" and the next is "All self-defense related things are learning war."
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  why did Jehovah create flightless birds ?

  by stan livedeath in

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  ostriches, chickens, emus, penguins, ...the dodo + others i cant remember.. it seems a bit mean..

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  I remember reading this phrase several times in Watchtower publications - "How marvelous are body has been designed."

  No. No it's not. In fact, the human body is more then sufficient evidence of evolution. A "Grand Creator" would not make such a delicate, feeble creature so prone to death and failure.
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  Watchtower lawyer fined for misleading the court

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  watchtower lawyer david brumley has been fined for misleading the court during the discovery process of the montana case.

  the result was another 17 months of the courts time and the plaintiff having to produce evidence that wtpa did have a pivotal role in congregational business, which brumley had denied hoping that the courts would take his word for it.

  he will be personally responsible for reimbursing the costs accrued by the plaintiff, due to his misleading affidavit.. see mark o donnell's twitter statement here:https://twitter.com/mark_j_odonnell/status/1562205475374043136?t=emdh163jnfi8kb6zch-uga&s=19.

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  Jehovah hates a liar.
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  Apostates apparently have their own terminology

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a dyed in the wool witness actually posted this as if non-witnesses invented unheard of terminology,.

  "those who devote their life to criticize jehovah’s witnesses use a lot of very specific expressions and ideas common only to them:.

  “8 old men in new york”,.

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  "Those who devote their life to criticize Jehovah’s Witnesses use a lot of very specific expressions and ideas common only to them:
  “Watchtower”
  “overlapping generation”

  Let that sink in for a minute...

  “old light”

  The Watchtower coined the term "New Light". If there is New Light there has to be Old Light. Otherwise it would all just be Light.
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  Hypothetical Bible question for Christians

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  although not stated, is it possible that satan issued a challenge regarding adam & eve, just as he did with job?.

  reason i ask: if you made something "perfect", why would you unnecessarily subject it to a trial/test?.

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  ...is it possible that Satan issued a challenge regarding Adam & Eve, just as he did with Job?

  No.

  In the Hebrew Bible there is no Satan. There is "the satan" or "accuser. A satan is referred to 9 times in the Hebrew texts. Five times to describe a human military, political or legal opponent, and four times with reference to a divine being. In Numbers 22, the prophet Balaam, hired to curse the Israelites, is stopped by a messenger from Israel’s God YHWH, described as “the satan” acting on God’s behalf.

  Remember the Sadducees? There were the larger of the 2 sects of Judaism practioners with the Pharisees being the newer, more progressive sect. They were self-appointed to keep the Jewish religion pure from outside religious influence. The Sadducees were a longer standing group with some influence.

  Remember the two doctrines that set them apart from the Pharisees -

  1. No resurrection
  2. No angels

  So the "Satan" of Job is actually just "a satan" or "accuser" which was the legal term given to the plaintiff of a court case.

  3 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

  Notice Genesis 3:1 says "the serpent". In Hebrew the word here that is used is "nachash" which translates into snake (noun), deviner (verb), shining one (adjective). It can't be the noun (snake) because later on in chapter 3 of Genesis we find out that this nachash is cursed to eat dust. I know of no animal that eats dust, let alone a snake.

  In addition, the verb form of nachash means "deviner" or "witchcraft," but it also came to mean "to guess."

  Satan being a fallen angel did not become part of any belief system until angels became part of the Jewish society. That did not occur until around the 2nd or 1st century BCE. Enter the Pharisees and the Apostle Paul - a Pharisee. It is not until the New Testament that Paul starts speaking of Satan the Devil as being a specific heavenly person and chief opposer of God. Paul's writing predates the Gospels. Paul writes as if an actual snake had become possessed by an angel and temped Eve.

  What makes more sense -

  • Eve is tempted by her own desires (nachash or "to guess" aka "second guess") or
  • There was a snake possessed by an angel that began to talk and later ate dust?
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  "here is the Christ"

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was thinking about the scriptures at matt 24:23-26 .

  the time period does appear to be during great tribulation...anyway, it is telling us not to believe it when people are telling us christ is in the wilderness or in his inner rooms.

  it would be false christs and false prophets promoting this.

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  We have in essence been told," Here is the Christ"...what do you think?

  I think 2 things -

  1. You are absolutely correct.
  2. There would be no guessing. That is why the Jews are still waiting for their Messiah. Whomever allegedly said the words that were written at Matthew 24:23-26 was not the Messiah.
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  Naked in the New World

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know there was a painting of a woman being resurrected naked and someone coming to greet her holding clothes, but what about after perfection, after the thousand years?.

  the idea is we're supposed to achieve what adam lost by returning to human perfection, so wouldn't that include not wearing clothes, especially as the act of adam and eve hiding in the trees and sewing fig leaves signified shame, and imperfection passed on through the reproductive organs.

  has the wt ever addressed this?

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  That's one of the strangest parts of the Bible, IMO. Why, in that scenario, would nudity have been "bad"? I mean, talk about terrible writing: whoever came up with this idea was... trying to explain why people have to... wear clothing? And that was his best guess? "nudity is evil"?
  Even if we accept it as a metaphor of some kind, it's awfully clumsy. Adam and Eve gain the ability to discern right from wrong, and their first thought is "whoa, we're naked!" Really? You mean like every other living creature around you?

  It speaks volumes. One does not even need to get to the global flood a few chapters later to realize it is all a mythological tale used to try explain things. Jewish mythology is no different then say Greek or Norse mythology.