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  How Many Of You Knew Something Was Really Wrong Growing Up JW? What was Your First Clue?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is directed to born-ins.

  around age 10 or 12 is when it first hit me.

  i started asking questions about how the world worked and i really wanted an honest opinion from my parents.

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  1. In the early 90's when the Watchtower changed its stance on alternative service in lieu of compulsory military service. How many JW men went to prison for no good reason?
  2. In the early 2000's I learned that there are Circuit and District Overseers who seek out those who profess to be of the Annointed to persecute them with the goal of disfellowshipping them.
  3. When I found out 17 years after my father moved the family the new Presiding Overseer feared my father (someone who professes to be of the Annointed) would take his place and told the congregation privately not to associate with us.
  4. Kepler's Law makes Noah's Global Flood physically impossible.
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  Hello I’ve just discovered that my religion is false just

  by Chickenlips in

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  2. friends

  just wanted to say hey.

  i’m in australia.

  i’ve just woken up… i’m disfellowshipped and finding it hard without family although i do have one sister who isn’t interested in the truth, so that’s good… at least i can talk to her.

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  Chickenlips:

  Welcome to the forum. Congratulations on freeing yourself from an abusive concept. You have a little bit of work to do.

  Humans crave meaning in their lives. You just took a major part of your life that defined your meaning and purpose and disposed of it. If you do not replace it with something else that gives you meaning purpose you may suffer.

  There have been a lot of great suggestions given already. There are a lot of things you can do and about 7.2 billion more people you can now befriend. Just pick something and move ahead. You'll do great!
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  The Multilocational Jesus

  by Smiles in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if jesus is now so superpowerful that he can exist at multiple locations simultaneously (e.g., dwelling inside of a true believer and popping into all the best gatherings of two or more peeps in his name) why does jesus bother hiring angels to work gigs?

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  The shortest answer I can come up with in such scenarios is this - magic.

  On a side note, I learned a lot more about the Israelites' history and religion after I stopped being one of Jehovah's Witnesses. There are some interesting research points I have found. I wonder in retrospect why the Watchtower never took the time to explain some of these things.

  Take for instance the Sadducees that are brought up in the Gospels and New Testament. These men where affluent and influential. As such, there were not a whole lot of them, but they did outnumber the Pharisees who were newer and had no real influence.

  The Sadducees took it upon themselves to make sure that Judaism was kept pure from foreign religions. The Israelites always seemed to be subjugated by the world power of the time (e.g. Egypt, Persia, Greece, Rome). Anyone teaching something outside the Mosaic Law was rounded up and dealt with.

  Here are two teachings they maintained and enforced -

  1. There are other heavenly being aside from God. No angels. No demons. No Satan.
  2. There is no life after death.
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  Wow. I remember this picture.

  by greenhornet in

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  I pledge allegiance to the blue square of the watchtower, and the society for which it stands, one organization in place of God, with liberty and justice for none.

  
  
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  Wow. I remember this picture.

  by greenhornet in

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  11/2022 WT, not-so-encouraging experiences

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here's some 'spiritual gems' from the latest wt, 11/22.

  first up, a bethelite who was kicked out, er, "reassigned":.

  "she was reassigned to the field after serving at bethel for more than 23 years.

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  Is it just me or is there a common thread to all 3 experiences -

  1. A JW is forced to make a sacrifice by the Watchtower
  2. The JW makes the sacrifice with no benefit
  3. The JW is alright with what happened
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  Watchtower Basketball Guidelines!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  watchtower basketball guidelines.

  click image to enlarge.

  https://postimg.cc/btgxcgcb.

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  I find it interesting as well that games are to be played until one team reaches 11 points. So, there are winners and losers. It is a competitive game.

  It also sounds rather organized. As in, it is a Bethel league for Bethelites. So, again, competitive play.

  Both are discouraged/forbidden by the Watchtower when it comes to the rank and file in playing organized sports. Also, what happened to the misused scripture "Bodily training is beneficial for little..." I always remember being told my free time was better used in studying or in the ministry.
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  Conditions of Watchtower Baptism

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i understand that there are 80 to 100 questions that would-be witnesses must answer correctly before they can be considered eligible for "christian baptism".

  however i have noticed that none of the questions relate to the 607destruction, the 1914 invisible presence and enthronement, or even the 1919 appointment of the faithful slave.. now some may feel my question is ridiculous, but bear with me.. will jehovah's witnesses baptize someone who answers all 100 questions satisfactorily, but rejects 607, 1914 and 1919 and the events the watchtower associates with these dates if they agree not to express their rejection to others?.

  your thoughts....

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  In the book of Acts chapter 8 Phillip is commanded to go and preach the gospel to an Ethiopian eunuch was was reading the Book of Isaiah. After giving the gospel of Jesus to the eunuch by Phillip the eunuch asked to be baptized and was.

  How many Watchtower publications did the eunuch study with Phillip prior to baptism?

  How many of the 100 questions did the eunuch get correct?

  What assembly/convention was the eunuch baptized at?
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  1985 and baptism...I wish I had read this before today

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.

  i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.

  in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.

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  Interesting.

  I was baptized after 1985 and the newer legalized questions were administered to me. I do have an interesting question to add to the discussion -

  What if the baptismal candidate was a minor at the time of baptism and unable to give legal consent to enter into a contract with a corporation?
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  Should laws be passed compelling the church to report crimes?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if laws were passed compelling the church to report crimes to government authorities and there was no legal way around it and the church was forced to comply and did comply, nobody would confess their sins.

  it wouldn’t stop people from committing crimes, they just wouldn’t tell their church about it.

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  Where I live, failure to report a felony is a crime punishable up to one year in the county jail. There are no provisions in this law that exclude any person. All child abuse crimes are also felonies where I live.

  So, it's not a matter of if it should or not, but why isn't this way everywhere?