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Was / Is God biased ? prejudiced against certain Peoples / Tribes or Nations ?

by smiddy3 in

let me explain :.

after the creation account of the bible, tribes of people and nations began to form and spread around the land.. god first chose noah and his family to protect them as he destroys all others in the flood.. and he ticks off everyone in babel ?

and then he favours abraham and his descendants as the nation of israel culminating in the jewish lineage to jesus the son of god.. he has never had any dealings with any other people`s or nation isn`t that some form of favouritism ?

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The Old Testament "God" is an invention of the Israelites that helped ensure they maintained their national identity. After being conquered and occupied over and over again some device had to be manufactured to make sure the Israelites where not simply absorbed into the nations that were their rulers. It worked quite well.

Here's the rundown -

Israel is God's/YHWH's chosen people.
One day God/YHWH will send a messiah/promised deliverer to free Israel from captivity.
That messiah will set Israel up as the ruler over all other nations.
All Israel has to do is faithfully obey God/YHWH and keep their language/customs until that day comes.

So, yes, the god of the Bible is rather partial. He is the god of the Jews first and foremost. He is not Jesus and Jesus is not the god of the Jews. Jesus is not even the foretold messiah.

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WT Style Pacificism

by Sea Breeze in

episode 203 of netflix ... i am a killer looks at the murder of christopher chavez in texas.

christopher chavez was a 22 year old ministerial servant and a born-in son of an jw elder.

after a thursday night meeting and a quick bite to eat afterwards with friends at a local restaurant, he was kidnapped, taken to a gas station and forced to drive his killers around for hours while they were in the back seat.

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Yes, Jehovah's Witnesses won't carry guns, but they will quickly call on those who do to come to their rescue.

JWs also cannot hold privileges in the congregation if they hold a job that requires them to be armed to defend against other people (e.g. Police Officer). However, JWs have no problem calling the police out to save them. Rather hypocritical.

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WT Style Pacificism

by Sea Breeze in

episode 203 of netflix ... i am a killer looks at the murder of christopher chavez in texas.

christopher chavez was a 22 year old ministerial servant and a born-in son of an jw elder.

after a thursday night meeting and a quick bite to eat afterwards with friends at a local restaurant, he was kidnapped, taken to a gas station and forced to drive his killers around for hours while they were in the back seat.

truth_b_known

If I had to guess, and it is an educated guess, I would say that poor Christopher Chavez grew up hearing the same examples of Witnesses who were protected by invisible men that only the assailants could see. Chavez heard time and time again of Witnesses who were subject to attempted murder, rape, and armed robbery only to be miraculously saved by "calling upon Jehovah."

Many have commented on this website how the Watchtower takes artistic license and turns incidents with JWs into fishermen's tails of the one that got away. I have no real evidence, but I will make the allegation that the Watchtower fabricates the stories of miraculous saves of JWs from acts of violence. There are too many documented cases, like Christopher Chavez', where JWs are murdered and raped.

The Watchtower as far back as the early 1990s got to the point of refusing to state that a person should even attempt to use force in the defense of one's self or an innocent third party. Saul has slain his thousands and David his tens of thousands, but Jehovah doesn't seem to want you or I to even throw a punch to save a life.

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Which of you readers are being shunned by their relatives / friends ?

by stan livedeath in

a simple " me" if you dont want to say more--or a short explanation about who is shunning you and how long has this been going on.. i'll set the ball rolling: my daughter--her husband and children; my younger son --no contact from them for 40 years...because i left their religion.. (edit--i just noticed the typo in the header--if should be of ).

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The shunning for me started before I even left. I noticed that friends I had for a decade or two decades stopped communicating with me. At that point I was inactive in the ministry and occasionally attended meetings.

It was at a Circuit Assembly that I first realized the shunning began. It was custom to go out to dinner after the afternoon session with friends. No invites were received.

I have been completely out for about 12 years. 1 parent and 1 sibling have not spoken to me in years. None of my friends speak to me.

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The faithful steward mystery - solved at last!

by BoogerMan in

w13 7/15 p. 20 “who really is the faithful and discreet slave?” revealed it was a bunch of guys in new york, back in 1919.. the apostle paul must have been un-inspired when he wrote this back in the 1st century:.

(1 corinthians 4:1, 2) “a man should regard us [all christians/paul, apollos & peter?

] as attendants of christ and stewards of god’s sacred secrets.

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They will tell you that the New Testament is speaking to anointed Christians. With a heavenly hope. So the GB claims to be from the anointed class so they can claim that they are the faithful and discreet slave.

That use to be the Watchtower dogma. Now the Watchtower excludes all Annointed ones on Earth and names only the members of the Governing Body as the faith slave.

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The MODERN DAY tourist guide shooting themselves in the foot.

by Longlivetherenegades in

the tourist guide as obtained from the kingdom rule book chapter 5 paragraphs 1-6. the book states..... the spirit of the truth .

will guide you into all the truth.”.

the spirit is jesus’ means of teaching his followers whatever they need to know about god’s kingdom—right when they need to know it.. me: who are your tourist guide today?.

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What starts out here as a mass movement ends up as a racket, a cult, or a corporation.

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“Heaven and Earth will pass away but my words will by no means pass away.”

by Fisherman in

“this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.

heaven and earth will pass away but my words will by no means pass away.”.

the destruction of jerusalem is insignificant in the large scheme of things.

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Paul and John both believed that Jesus return would be in their lifetime. Paul's writings in regards to avoiding marriage if possible is proof of this. John's writings in the book of Revelations also suggests his belief that Jesus would return before John's death.

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What are the odds that Armageddon is soooo close?

by Vanderhoven7 in

well judging from past prophetic pronouncements....go figure.

"surely there is not the slightest room for doubt in the mind of a truly consecrated child of god that the lord jesus is present and has been since 1874;…" watchtower 1924 jan 1 p.5).

"the prophecy of the bible, fully supported by the physical facts in fulfillment thereof, shows that the second coming of christ dates from the fall of the year 1914.

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This would make a great handbill to pass out. Maybe one of those JW stickers people were recently posting on here and Reddit.

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Are YOU saved?

by JW Answers in

sadly today, many churches and religious organisations teach their followers that they are saved based on something the bible does not record.

many people are following a lie, and are heading to a lost eternity and do not know it.. my question here is... are you saved?

it's vitally important to know!.

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That brings up another point - are sins actually wrongdoings, harmful works, or evil, or are they just things God doesn't want us to do?

“What all the gods love is pious, and what they all hate is impious.”

Is the pious loved by the gods because it is pious?
Or is it pious because it is loved by the gods?

or

God commands it because it is right.
It is right because God commands it.

Either God is just an agent passing on what is right and wrong or morality is ultimately not based on reason and arbitrarily dependent on God’s will. if we cannot measure God by moral standards, then it is really tough for us to describe God as good or wise. God doesn’t really act on good reasons, but rather on his arbitrary will. Saying that God is morally good is a meaningless statement, for whatever he does is good anyway. How can we distinguish the all-powerful God from an all-powerful demon?

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Are YOU saved?

by JW Answers in

sadly today, many churches and religious organisations teach their followers that they are saved based on something the bible does not record.

many people are following a lie, and are heading to a lost eternity and do not know it.. my question here is... are you saved?

it's vitally important to know!.

truth_b_known

There is no reconciling James and Paul. It is an exercise in cognitive dissonance. Paul was a self-appointed, misguided fraud.

To sin is to violate God's law.
It is God's law and God made the law.
God makes the penalties for violating the law.
God carries out the execution of the penalties.
Salvation is protection from the penalties.
Salvation comes from God.
All you have to do accept God as your savior to gain salvation.

Officer: Sir, do you know why I pulled you over?

Driver: Probably because I was speeding, Officer?

Officer: Yes. The legislature and governor passed a law that prohibits operating a motor vehicle over the speed limit. The penalty is a fine not to exceed $500.00.

Driver: What a kind an loving legislature and governor. I accept them both as my savior.

Officer: Oh! You accept the legislature and governor as your savior? Well, in that case, you are free to go about your business. Paying the fine wouldn't have cover your violation of the law, anyways.

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