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  Mr Sloth and the Flood

  by avatar in

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  so let's talk about the global flood.. how did the animals get to the ark?.

  i mean how fast does a sloth swim?

  the sloth swims at 0.15 mph.

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  Evidently there were overlapping arks.
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  No Baptism For Military - but How About Law Officers?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  2. bible

  does the wts sanction baptism of gun carrying law officers?.

  does being a cop or prison guard or any other occupation requiring the carrying of a weapon.

  disqualify a person from personal dedication to jehovah according to the fds?.

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  About 30 years ago the WTB&TS took a hardline stance against members who held a job that required them to carry a weapon for the purpose of protecting themselves or others (I guess a gun carrying dog catch would be ok). The bottomline was any member who held such a job had 6 months to quit or they could not have any privileges in the congregation. As such, I do not believe it would prevent a person from being baptised, but once baptised they would not be able to do anything above field service and commenting at meetings.

  The reasoning behind this was that it would put a person in a position that they might become "blood guilty". Remember, the WTB&TS does not differentiate between killing and murder. Even though the Bible specifically gives clearance from Jehovah to kill people to protect people and property.

  I have an older cousin who spoke of a Witness in his congregation that was a police officer. He said this Witness was a very spiritual person, but would rather be a police officer than carry microphones at the meetings or be a Ministerial Servant. As a former Witness, former Ministerial Servant, and a 13 year law enforcement veteran, I don't blame him.

  I also know of a man who was a sergeant at a sheriff's office whose wife and kids were all witnesses. He studied and got baptised. He didn't quit his job. He just voluntarily took a desk job inside the jail where weapons are prohibitted by policy.

  In the police academy, during the deadly force instruction, our instructor handed out copies of Romans 13:1-7 from 4 different translations of the Bible. He said he went to the clergy of 3 different denominations of churches in his area and asked about those scriptures. He mentioned that as soon as he gave the passage the clergyman would all immediately say, "Oh, the police officer verse."

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  Romans 13:1-7

  New International Version (NIV)

  Submission to Governing Authorities

  13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

  6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

  The police are "God's servants" and when they use their "sword" they are doing the will of God.
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  2012 DC Program

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  digital publications.

  books and brochures.

  http://www.jw.org/index.html?option=qryqcsvrglbbx.

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  "Safe Guard Your Heart"? It sounds more like "Stop Thinking for Yourself and Deny Yourself all Joy in Life in the Name of the Watch Tower Society."

  Notice, the program is brought to us by the "Governing Body".
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  Pitiful, Pitiful, PiteeeFULL

  by TOTH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so the hounder hounder co was in town for his bean counting mission and he was invited to pay my ill father in law a visit.

  just like every other time he comes since father in law never attends anymore because of his failing health but this time he is a little judgmental.

  my father in law felt very much like he was being interrogated rather than shepherded.

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  TOTH:

  I used to attend my CA at Yuba City. Small world.

  I remember a CO who was nicknamed "The Terminator". He told the BOE that an elder or a MS who said the word crap should be removed. We said, "That is c-rap (pronounced "see-rap").
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  How Do JWs View Gluttony?

  by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

  1. jw
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  this thread is dedicated to the judgemental fat and not so jolly elders and elderettes (non judgemental loving brethren, please disregard!)..

  in my county, some of our appointed brothers and sisters are suffering from obesity, eating disorders and heavy drinkings.

  what is the best way to approach brothers in charge, who are morbidly overweight, don't care about their physical appearance?

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  JWs skate around this one.

  I once heard it said that the Hebrew word for "gluttony" translated in to "The eating of too much meat."

  I thought that if you're going to get DFed for smoking then you should be DFed for eating fast food and being obese.
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  guilt tripping isn't working!

  by thecrushed in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i had a ms come into my work today to encourage me to come back to the meetings.

  he asked me how i was doing and i smiled real big and told him i was doing wonderful!!!

  he was completely confused because i think i was supposed to be feeling bad and guilty for not going out in service and feeling like the wrath of jehovah was upon me.

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  I never thought about using Captain Kirk to bring down the WTB&TS. Genious!
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  This good news of the kingdom will be preached ...

  by biometrics in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so some of my jw friends can't answer a lot of the questions i put to them.

  invariably they end up with the comback line of "this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.

  " and state that jws are the only ones doing the preaching.. i suspect most jws who've left have come across this.

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  Someone recently posted a link to a new JW website. One of the things it does is list about 6 religions that have similar beliefs thought by JWs to be exclusive to them. Included in this is a door-to-door preaching work.
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  Watchtower threatens to sue their own

  by blond-moment in

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  examining the scriptures daily.

  interesting.

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  As I have never owned any translation of the Bible other than the NWT, I have never even considered the fact that the NWT is copyrighted. That is crazy! The King James Version is public domain.
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  Chronology of George Zimmerman

  by Terry in

  1. social
  2. current

  business insider put together some chronological bullet points highlighting the articles most important points:.

  zimmerman grew up in a mixed-race householdhe was an altar boy at his caltholic church from age 7-17he is bilingualafter he finished high school, he studied for and got an insurance licensein 2004, zimmerman and a black friend opened an allstate insurance office (which soon failed)zimmermans 2005 arrest for resisting arrest, violence, and battery of an officer occurred after he shoved an under-cover alcohol control agent at a bar when the agent was trying to arrest an underage friend of hiszimmerman married his wife, shellie, in 2007. they rented a house in twin lakes.

  twin lakes is about 50% white, 20% hispanic, and 20% black.in 2009, zimmerman enrolled in seminole state collegein the fall of 2009, a pit bull broke free twice and once cornered shellie in the zimmermans yard.

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  To answer the question, "doesn't make it make you feel a bit differently about Zimmerman?" I would answer: Yes. However, I have never seen George Zimmerman as a murderer nor have I viewed Trayvon Martin as a victim. Not even the trial will let the public know everything that happened last night.

  If George Zimmerman's story is completely accurate, I have no issue with what he did because he was within the law. If Zimmerman broke the law, then I hope he gets what he deserves. If Zimmerman's account is true, Trayvon got what was coming to him.
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  guilt tripping isn't working!

  by thecrushed in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i had a ms come into my work today to encourage me to come back to the meetings.

  he asked me how i was doing and i smiled real big and told him i was doing wonderful!!!

  he was completely confused because i think i was supposed to be feeling bad and guilty for not going out in service and feeling like the wrath of jehovah was upon me.

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  An older Witness couple who had just moved here from anothe state used to stop by and talk to my wife who is also a fader. One Saturday morning my wife was gone and they stopped by the house. We spoke for a few minutes.

  They say that I was wearing my old police academy PT t-shirt and asked if I was I was a police officer. I responded "Yes."

  "Well, then you must notice how the world is becoming worse and worse, every day."

  "No. I have seen some horrible things, but, statistically speaking, violent crime has been on the decline over the years."

  They were stunned. As nature abhors a vacuum they quickly filled the gap with, "Well, I'm sure it is getting worse in other countries."