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Why the story of Noah's ark is scientifically impossible: Minimum Viable Population

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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friends

i didn't know this but there is a way to calculate the minimum population required for a certain species to survive over the next 100 to 1000 years.

this is called the "minimum viable population".. genesis states that 2 (or 7) of each "kind" went into the ark.

supposing that each "kind" means each "species", and they all could fit in the ark, and they came out safely, most of the species would have died, because it is impossible to survive, long-term, with a starting population of 2.this is interesting:"an mvp of 500 to 1,000 has often been given as an average for terrestrial vertebrates when inbreeding or genetic variability is ignored.

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Friends -

The fairy tale story of a global flood, Noah, and the ark were the foundation of my exit from the evil empire. The animal portion is just part of it.

Where did all the water go?
In order for the highest mountain top to be covered by water, the Earth's mass would change its orbit.
All fresh water sources would mix with salt water and kill off freshwater fish.
Did Egyptians have SCUBA gear? They were actively building pyramids during the global flood.

If I just have to have "faith" to believe, I don't want to have faith. If a magical invisible man has the power to solve all these issues, why cause a global flood to begin with? Why not just send angels to kill the wicked?

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Plastic Surgery

by raven in

hi everyone- i don't have much of an update on my current situation ( refer to previous posts ) august 1st has past, (the day the judicial committee was supposedly held against me- and that i didn't attend, no word on anything as of now, thankfully i am moving to a new home next week which means no more elders sending me spooky jc invite mail!

anyways, i'm getting off the main reason why i'm posting.. so i have tendency to drift off into thought and have discussions with myself, ( i'm not crazy i swear!

) i was thinking today, have we heard any more updates on appearances?

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Modest colors? I guess Satan made those nasty old immodest colors and we should avoid them.

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Recent mistakes of the Governing Body contributing to the decline of JWs

by slimboyfat in

they have made so many strategical mistakes it's hard to keep track.

some changes within the last decade or so that are contributing to declining numbers of jws:.

1. elimination of book study groups, the most informal, enjoyable and sociable of the jw meetings, contributed to loss of sense of community among jws.. 2. policy of consolidating kingdom halls.

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I'll just ad my $0.02 to two points already made:

1) Consolidation of meetings

2) Reducing the frequency of printing on magazines

My former presiding overseer/COBE once said that, if it weren't for all the meetings, brothers would have more time to get in trouble. Little did I know that by saying "get in trouble" really meant living a normal life.

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New year's Eve 1975 to New Year's Day 1976.

by Gargamel in

did anyone else here go a bit odd on new year's eve 1975 to new year's day 1976?.

i had been out of the org for a couple of years at the time, but not got around to debunking the beliefs.. what my mind went through around the above dates could be regarded as borderline psychotic, though the black hash probably didn't help.. i've just started tackling a first draft writing what i can remember about that period.. it probably wasn't helpful that my jw mother died a week into 1976. she had been ill quite a bit for some years, but after the date for the apocalypse passed, i do wonder if she just gave up.

prior to that she possibly believed she would never have to die, but once the big a got delayed, maybe she felt that she couldn't face years of illness and the fight went out of her.. i am finding that trying to write my history is a bigger undertaking than i first expected, but i'll do it even if it takes me years..

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I have a close friend that is a few year older than me. He was 5, almost 6, at that time. His family was uber-dub, especially his father.

When 1975 passed and nothing changed his father stopped being a Witness, cold. They had a Christmas tree in the house come December 1976. His parents split over the change and his father was DFed for apostasy.

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God's name

by Gorbatchov in

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first at all, there is a new marketing video of god's name, clearly saying the name of god is jehovah.. link: https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodbible/docid-502014331_1_video.

and then, there is the video with geoffrey jackson (gb) clearly saying that the original name of god is not known and the use of jehovah is because of it is the most used variant in english.. link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwv_8ocvkj8.

so, something contradicts here, isn't it?.

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I would like to hear more about the ways of Gormuna.

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That Most Uneven of Judicial Procedures~The Gradual Lifting of Restriction After Reinstatement

by TMS in

those with substantial experience as jws will likely agree that judicial matters are handled with considerable inconsistency.

elders certainly vary in skill level, understanding, compassion or even knowledge of the talmudlike watchtower rules.

the punishment and, it is actually punishment, for similar offenses can result in anything from private or public reproof to disfellowshipping or sometimes an elder will choose to simply offer private counsel without even bringing the matter before the body of elders.

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I had weird personal experience.

I was privately reproved and lost all "privileges". My book study conductor was on my judicial committee. Shortly after losing my privileges he called me up and told me I was to be the reader at the next book study.

I was raised in a uber-dub, dad was an elder and anointed, family. I was a MS for 6 years prior to all this. I was shocked and confused.

I found out later that all the elders on my judicial committee were relatively new to the organization ans were clueless as to all the secret rules and regulations regarding organization disciplinary procedures.

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JW over-rode our Choice of Funeral music

by snugglebunny in

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a few years on and the funeral of my jw momma still galls me.

she left instructions for which kingdom songs to be sung and we gladly abided by her wishes.

the funeral was held in a public crematorium, not a kingdom hall.

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Did you send the funeral bill to the congregation? I would have.

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"That Makes Your Organisation, In Many Respects, A Captive Organisation"

by pale.emperor in

a segment from the royal commission in australia where gb member geoffrey jackson is grilled by a, very fantastic, lawyer.

this should be watched by all people contemplating getting baptized as jw's.

once you're in, you cant leave and keep your family.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpir8vjsdre.

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"We don't run a police state.." - Geoffrey Jackson

I about spit my coffee all over my desk when he said that.

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JW's opinions on bunker video

by neat blue dog in

the so called bunker video isn't just getting attention here but among jws as well.

i've heard a fair share of cracks, some half joking half serious about the prospect of the video playing out in real life .

but something else i've heard is that the video was meant to be figurative, an illustration representing the 'interior rooms' prophecy..

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The video had me scratching my head.

Why are the "police" in riot gear while making entry into homes? Are the JWs rioting?

In the end, the JWs are captured. So much for hiding in the "secret places". Millions now living will not be.

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Something's Gotta Give

by pale.emperor in

i've been 100% alone since my df last month.

i'm dead to my family now, unless i return to their cult - so i recently made contact with 3 former jw's that were in my cong when i was in my youth.

to my surprise, they all had exactly the same doubts and reasoning i had and said even though they've been out 6-7 years they "still feel tied to it in some way" and "feel guilty celebrating xmas or birthdays".

truth_b_known

The most miserable portion of my life was after the total fade, but before I stopped trying to keep the practices of JWs.

Be all the way in or all the way out. There is no grey or middle ground when it comes to Jehovah's Witnesses.

As soon as I got on with my life things were so much better. The best, actually.

I got on with my career and advanced quickly. I made great new friends whose friendship is truly unconditional. Life became enjoyable.

I'm happier now knowing that this life is all there is and that one day I will die than at any point in my life where I thought I was going to live forever in a paradise earth.

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