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  Pioneers Living With Married Couple

  by msecodo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so ... situation:.

  a baptized married couple, with no privileges that we know of, have opened their home to 2 unmarried regular pioneers because of the pioneers' financial issues (limited income).. - husband works from home.

  - wife doesn't work and stays home or in service.

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  Does this surprise me? No. Does it re-affirm that they are in a high control cult? Yes.
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  Hurricane Harvey JW Victims - Keep trusting in Jehovah’s loving arm of support.

  by Funchback in

  1. social
  2. current

  not a peep about all victims, not even a prayer for them.

  only pray for jws.

  and who or what is jehovah's loving arm of support?

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  The organization and it's assets will always be used for one sole purpose - supporting the organization.

  My father was once scolded by an elder for making the statement that, if he were independently wealthy, he would fly aid in to areas effected by natural disaster to give relief to the brothers. The elder told him that the proper thing would be to donate to the organization who would best decide how to use the funds.
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  The org tightens the noose on J.W.'s thinking.

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the manipulative use of language by the org in the upcoming circuit assembly talks is as good - or better - than any advertising conglomerate could devise.

  the mind-shaping wording is clearly used in order to deter critical thinking by the sheep.. face bad reports as jesus did (9 min.

  note to the speaker: explain why spiritually mature people do not become ashamed of the good news or dismayed when faced with negative propaganda.

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  False Reports

  Negative Reports

  Unconfirmed Reports

  Sensational Reports

  Just ignore the man behind the curtain. Don't acknowledge these reports. Do not debate these reports. Do not attempt to defend the organization as this would mean acknowledging the report.

  I think I covered it all.

  Wow! This leads me to believe that the Governing Body is scrambling. They are afraid of an exodus do to someone turning a light on the dark corners of the organization.
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  Is The Watchtower Corporation Facing A Meltdown Of Confidence Among Its Members?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  looking at all the narcissistic bull shit the watchtower corporation has been spewing out for the world to see about suffering of its members to as nothing worth being very concerned about and as jehovah magnificent be vindicated is much more important.

  have they really gone off their rocker enough for a very sizable portion of membership to see their insanity and jump ship?.

  i think definitely they are losing all respect from their internet savy members as their madness becomes obvious.

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  I cannot provide stats, but I can provide examples.

  The congregation that I grew up in had two families that were the main pillars. The Presiding Overseer's (COBE) family and the Secretary's Family. Both brothers' wives are/were regular pioneers. Their kids (whom I grew up with) pioneered right out of high school and married Ministerial Servants.

  Where I have seen the change is the grandchildren. I moved away when the grandchildren were still school age. Now they are grown and out of their parents' house. They are all inactive. They are all in relationships with non-Witnesses. They are tatted out and have pierced faces.

  I really think that Generation X was the last generation the organization could count on. Generation X is cooling off and slowing down (i.e. just going through the motions). As the organization doubles down on stupid, Generation Y is woke to their propaganda.
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  JWs MUST Accept The Watchtower Teachings EVEN When They Are Wrong!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  isn't it unbelievable that a jehovah's witness must accept whatever the organization says or they can be disfellowshipped??

  unless they tell you that their understanding has changed, you cannot believe anything unless they say it's ok. .

  many years ago i questioned them about their ridiculous view that whenever the word "heart" was mentioned, it was a literal blood filled organ.

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  Obedience before all else...

  I remember a Circuit Assembly part that stated that from time to time brothers have become aware of basically "New Light" before the organization (i.e. Governing Body). In such cases brothers were instructed to keep their ideas to themselves so as not to "get ahead of the organization."

  In other words - blind obedience is all that matters.
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  After all these years, I finally made it to Brooklyn Bethel!

  by dubstepped in

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  The fact that they moved to their own private compound out in the middle of nowhere is another nail in the cult coffin.
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  Isn’t concept of sinner itself faulty?

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a person may sometimes get swelling on his leg and may have limped a few times—but he is never called lame.

  similarly, sometimes a person may slip into selfishness and use his free-will to his own harm or to the harm of others—but this does not make him a sinner because the ability to do the contrary (ability choose to commit virtuous act to any extent) too exists in him.

  if one’s occasional sinning does not make him a sinner, sin of another person (such as first human couple) can never make others sinners.

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  To sin is to make a transgression against God's law or to rebel against God.

  The doctrine of sin is that we are also imperfect and inherited the inclination to transgress against God's law from Adam.

  My dad asked me in my teens "How could Adam and Eve have sinned if they were perfect, free from sin?" I could never come up with a good answer.

  My question is, if we only grow old, get sick, and die because Adam and Eve passed sin onto us, why do plants and animals grow old, get sick, and die? They were created perfect by God. They never sinned against God.
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  The WatchTower conductor lied on stage

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on sunday morning in the watchtower study, a "study" who was their for the 1st time put his hand up and said; "i have a question.

  when the paragraph says give up everything, it doesn't really mean give up everything like the pearl merchant, does it, like be willing to lose my modest house, cheap car and other basics i own?

  i mean, that sounds a bit much".. the watchtower conductor said in response; "no, it's just a parable and it doesn't mean give up everything.

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  It does mean give up everything. Literally. Even your life or the lives of your loved ones.

  Have to work overtime to pay the rent/mortgage? Get rid of your house. Even if it is a modest one.

  Have to work overtime to pay your car loan/car insurance? Get rid of your car.

  Have to accept a blood transfusion to live? Die.

  Have to allow your unconscious spouse or children to have a blood transfusion to live? Let them die.
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  The most absurd reason have you heard someone disfellowshipped for ?

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  someone said on forum they knew someone df for not going to assigned meeting in old days .

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  For reasons still unknown.

  My dad was disfellowshipped. The didn't tell him why, but I was told that one of the elders in the congregation told a group at a get together that it was for apostasy. One year later he was re-instated at the urging of the congregation presiding overseer.

  Until this very day some 25 years later, my father still doesn't know the actual reason he was disfellowshipped.
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  Calling Out Jehovah's Witness Leaders for a violation of NEUTRALITY

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  _______________by the time 1967 arrived, my religious leaders in the kingdom hall had taken me aside and given me the straight dope.the vietnam war and the draft created existential problems for young jehovah's witness males.

  the governing body was unusually silent (in public) about issues of this nature except to pontificate in print in the most general terms.

  jw's didn't fight in wars because we were neutral.

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  I remember how much of a deep impact his made on me. Not because I was personally effected. Rather, I watched how it effected those brothers who personally went through this.

  I remember working in the Accounts Department at the Circuit Assembly in which this change was mentioned. An elder who was not a Witnesses during the Vietnam War, but was a conscientious objector had accepted working at the Post Office in lieu of military service. He made a profound comment, but it was his physical demeanor that had a more profound effect on me. He said something along the lines of "This will be difficult."

  This elder was so troubled he looked like he was about to have a stroke. Until this very day that experience has stuck with me. I cannot say for sure, but this change may have been what eventually lead to me leaving the organization.