Their names were Patrick Fitzgerald and Gerald Fitzpatrick.
exjwlemming
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Two Brothers Living Together - Never Dated Girls...
by pale.emperor inin my old congregation there are two brothers (non related) who are in the early 30s.
they've never dated girls.
they're "best friends".
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The one where the JW Died!
by Thisismein1972 inhttps://youtu.be/q6b77gm8xxi.
all will be revealed..
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exjwlemming
This is "click bait." Just a couple of people talking about some event that may or may not have occurred. I rather see a credible, local news story posted. Otherwise, this is all hearsay. Any wrongful death is whored out by the media....especially if JWs are involved. "If it bleeds, it leads." Nothing on the Google search engine????? I'm skeptical. -
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Orange hard hat for boss, white hard hats for workers
by hoser inthe latest study watchtower december 2016 study article by undeserved kindness you were set free has a picture at paragraph 19 of some construction workers.
i always thought the foreman wore a white hard hat.
besides that i hate the term undeserved kindness.
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exjwlemming
Typically, the supervisors wear white hardhats. The illustration depicts an actual KH project. There are 3 supervising elders telling one poor schmuck what to do. Each elder tells him to do something different. When he follows the direction of one elder, the other two have him disfellowshipped for not following the direction of Jehovah's appointed servants.
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JW Stand On Concealed Carry
by Cold Steel inif a jw wanted to get a concealed carry permit, would the society have any moral or ethical problems with it?
in other words, if one of your elders noticed you were carrying concealed, would they be apt to just ignore it or would they counsel you on it?
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exjwlemming
I have knew of a police officer that was studying and pressure was being applied to change his profession. The thought was that carrying a weapon is a license to take a life if need be. "A Christian would not want to put himself in a situation that might cause him to have to kill someone." He left his study and never looked back. I also knew a baptized, paramedic that was told that he should find another career. His occupation might cause him to be called to administer a blood transfusion which is forbidden by God's law. "Why would one want to have a part in breaking God's law?" Maybe to save someones life that does not have the same beliefs as a JW?
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Any regrets whilst you were in the Org
by Tallon inthe biggest regret i have is of 'shunning' persons who were disfellowshipped and for 'marking' ones deemed as bad association.. there's no way i can approach these people to ask them for forgiveness as i've emigrated to another country however, by this post i'd like it to be known..
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It's bad enough that I handicapped myself in my life by being a pawn in the borg. I regret ever having a role in indoctrinating my 2 kids in this abusive cult. Even though they currently don't see it, I have crippled them in the ability to have a normal, free, non-judgmental life by not serving this controlling, manipulative, abusive cult. I envy those that were "weak" in the truth and let their kids grown up in a normal environment, get an education, and be self sufficient, well adjusted, critical thinkers instead of parroting the bull**** that emanates and radiates as "new" light from the malevolent despots in their east coast ivory tower. I wish I had a time machine and could go back and stop the minions that called on my mother who bought into this degenerate, religious ecosystem...better yet, for the world, stop Russell or Rutherford for duping millions of people for over a century.
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JW broadcasting and doubts
by Colinconfused inhi everyone to cut a long story short, ive been away from the meetings for over 10 years.
i recently reconnected with the congregation and started a study.
cant get my head around all the changes and jw broadcasting.
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I started studying about 32 years ago in about 1984. At that time, the organization seemed to be more palatable for those looking for something. However, 32 years later, the organization is not even close to what it once was. The deception and rampant emotional, mental, and psychological abuse is disturbing....not to mention the prevalent sexual abuse in all corners of the earth. I don't see why anyone with modern day internet access would be interested in the borg unless they are pedophiles. I started fading about 4 years ago. The "Tight Pants Tony Pontification" was the last straw and things have only gotten worse.
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Do JWs believe they will be the only people saved at the "end"?
by LaurenM inthe answer posted on jw.org: "no.
many millions who lived in centuries past and who weren’t jehovah’s witnesses will have an opportunity for salvation.
additionally, many now living may yet begin to serve god, and they too will gain salvation.
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good catch BB. they truly didn't answer the question but skirted the real issue. This is standard operating procedure when answering pseudo "questions from readers" or sugarcoating their dogma until you are in too deep to get out with some dignity.
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The Last Supper
by Teddy ini have been studying with the jw since june of 2016 and they say only the ones who make up the 144.
000 and can partake of the bread and cup.
is this true?.
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The organization taught that the number would be decreasing as the system drew to a close and the 144,000 were chosen and filled. For decades, the number of partakers was decreasing. However in recent years, the number of the partakers has substantially increased. The number is published each and every year and the organization has no explanation for the increase. Just before the memorial, a talk is given about the anointed, who should be partaking, and the seriousness of the error of partaking for those that are not truly anointed. This is to stem the increasing tide of those that claim this class. Many believe that the org will stop releasing the yearly count of those that claim to be of the heavenly class. That way, the rank and file will not know the true numbers and the org will avoid inventing an explanation... like the overlapping generation fiasco.
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"Unique" Achievements By the WTS - Special Only Through The Ability of the World to Do The Same
by konceptual99 inbit of a long winding topic title but the thread on the dub in the bunker video made me think of what thing the wts does that are seen as basically impossible for anyone else to do and therefore evidence of holy spirit and god's blessing, yet those same things are done by the rest of the world day in, day out.. i have a few examples:.
- ability to buy a feck off big printing press and print thousand of magazines an hour.
only that every other big publishing organisation uses the same presses to do the same thing.. - ability to get inexperienced people to act using an acting coach as well as produce feature length films with reasonably high production value levels and special effects.
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The old "Quick Build" Kingdom Halls! I come from a construction background. The support on Saturday and Sunday was large. I have to say about 80% of the volunteers considered it a social occasion and 20% of the people did 95% of the work. There was alot of wasted manhours and time with an unorganized work force. Elders and MS, with no skills, directing and organizing the work. Many times, tasks and work had to be redone. I remember seeing about 60 people shingling a roof on a sunny day. Everyone wanted to get up on the roof and be a part of the action. The foot traffic damaged and destroyed the warm, soft shingles. A 20 year shingle only lasted about 10 years and the roof had to be redone. When the congregation was informed that they needed a new roof, some wanted to go back after the manufacturer because it was under a 20 year warranty! In addition, the same hall cut corners on the roof framing and used thin particle board to span the trusses. They also had to replace all the roof sheathing. They saved $9 a sheet between particle board and plywood when the hall was being built. Ten years later, they had a $20,000 bill, in materials, to remove and replace the entire roof. The quality was slipshod and thrown together. Materials were wasted on people not having the skills to complete the assignment correctly. If they would have built a modern day ark, it would have sank like a stone. A "Worldly" construction company would have done a much better and economical job. In the long run, the building would last longer and have fewer repair and rework needs. However, it's all about appearances and making the R&F feel good about the org.
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Listing Bros cv's in their intro
by purrpurr inat the assembly i noticed something new and disturbing.
when a brother is introduced before a talk the audience is now given their life history/ major accomplishments .. "brother arsehole who served at bethal for five years, pioneered in the foreign language territory for ten years, is an elder in x congregation and serves in the construction projects blah blah blah".
this puffing up never used to happen?
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exjwlemming
Brother "Never Grew Up" will be giving the next part on our 20 part symposium. Brother "Never Grew Up" was home schooled and married the first woman that he ever kissed at 18. He has spent nearly 20 years in the full time service while living in his parent's basement and collecting unemployment checks while working for cash under the table. He hasn't held steady verified employment for more than 4 months at a time. The births of both his children were paid for by our tax dollars. The topic of his talk is "Being honest in all aspects of our life." Brother "Never Grew Up," you have our undivided attention.