The WTS should have kept these "buffoons" in their ivory tower, rarely seen and rarely heard. In the 80's and early 90's, these men were like Oz, the man behind the curtain. They were held in awe and high esteem. Once they came out of the woodwork, many were disappointed in their speaking skills and intelligence. Their facial expressions, mannerisms, thoughts, and speech exhibit serious character flaws that don't make them any more special than the common JW. These leaders are suppose to inspire and lead by example. The fumble over doctrine and make excuses for "apostate lies." You could replace any of them in the monthly broadcast with a Jim Henson puppet and the rank and file would still fall in line. They will continue to read from the script and spoon feed the propaganda to the masses. Once younger ones come aboard the GB, the current leaders will be put in bethel hospice to serve the last part of their life in silence. The JWs will forget about them until an article appears that "so and so" finished his earthly course.
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Has anyone noticed how Tony Morris is always referring to his notes ?
by Chook ini honestly believe he has memory difficulties, him and mr letts iq is not much greater than a rabbit.
no the rabbit wins..
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I think Japanese love this Happy Bethel video
by yoko N inalmost 15000 view.
my acquaintance reverse witnessed his relatives showing this video,and they pledged they never donate www again.. https://youtu.be/_adktmq-rba.
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After years of service, I wonder if they will be dancing like that when they are kicked to the curb with with no savings, no job experience, no pension, or health insurance. Using em, abuse em, and toss them away. Go and be well fed my brother. Jah will remember your service, but the org doesn't.
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Ever heard of a brother being DFD and just walking away from family support?
by Crazyguy injust wondering if there ever been a brother that got dfd and then was shunned by his wife and his at home kids and he's just said , if your going to treat me like this screw it and walked away from all his responsibilities as a provider etc?
it must be hard for those that are dfd to continue to support those that shun him?
again anyone hear of such a case?.
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I separated from my JW wife and ultimately divorced her. During the separation, my one adult daughter (20-22 YO and a JW) would have nothing to do with me. She never answered texts or phone calls. Doing something together was never going to happen. My other minor child (not bapt) was required to spend time with me, but her heart was not in it. Once she became an adult, she stopped seeing me all together...."upholding jah's standards." She had turned against me. My ex got practically everything, materially, in the divorce and maintenence for the rest of her life so she can preach more! After my re-marriage, I only hear from them in a medical or financial crisis. Of course, I'm always there for them and hoping that they wake up, like me, one day.
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What is behind your choice of forum user name?
by stuckinarut2 injust curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.
there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.
i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.
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I was heading towards the edge of the cliff and throwing my life away with all the other JW lemmings.
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Another day, another cart
by Anony Mous ini was standing at a red light and i noticed the little cart standing there.
they're barely noticeable and when i continued there was apparently someone on the other side of the street too.
the only problem, the location is a very busy intersection which has virtually no foot traffic and they're hard to see to begin with, as you can see from my vantage point i couldn't even read the cart and three people next to them on this side and two of them on the other side.. .
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Here is another pair in the same local area that I drive by on a regular basis. They are so far away. It's like they don't want to be associated with literature cart.
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Another day, another cart
by Anony Mous ini was standing at a red light and i noticed the little cart standing there.
they're barely noticeable and when i continued there was apparently someone on the other side of the street too.
the only problem, the location is a very busy intersection which has virtually no foot traffic and they're hard to see to begin with, as you can see from my vantage point i couldn't even read the cart and three people next to them on this side and two of them on the other side.. .
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I noticed an abandoned cart, looked around, and finally saw the 2 JW tenders on the bench. I believe this was about 8:30 AM. It's a good thing that I'm still not in. The boredom would have driven me to take my own life, right on the corner like the monk that set himself a blaze to protest the Vietnam War.
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As an Ex JW now, how would you react if you met your Bible study conductor?
by EverApostate ini was a jw for 11 years , came to know ttatt and wrote my disassociation letter 5 years ago.
since then i had been an atheist and trying all i can to spread awareness for “still in” members.
my wife and mom are still jws and i do get along with them perfectly.
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The young man, that studied with me, is no longer a JW as well.
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Disfellowshipped for being complicit in someone else's sin - really?!
by Isambard Crater ina close friend of mine who is pimo (only staying in for family reasons) in a neighboring congregation called me in tears tonight saying her dad (elder) is telling her he is seriously considering reporting her to her local elders and she could get disfellowshipped.. the reason?
because she is complicit in a gross sin, according to him, by going with her best friend (not a j.w.
) when the friend had an abortion.
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Should a JW taxicab driver, Uber or Lyft driver ask their patrons why they are going to a certain destination? They may be complicit in delivering a person to a swingers party, a drug house, a friends with benefits hook up, a drunken party, an abortion, or many another other things. Where does it stop? Granted, supporting a friend during a difficult situation is more involved than being hired as a driver. It would be a judicial matter for sure. It was her decision to make and it should be between her and her God. JWs mettle in too much stuff...like big government. They are always concerned about "dangers in the congregation."
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Cooperation and Conformity
by Saethydd ina common thing that jws point to as proof of god's blessing is the supposed cooperation between people of many different backgrounds.
however, i think there should be a distinction drawn between collaborations that are performed through true tolerance and open-mindedness towards another's point of view, and collaborations that are the result of a high level of conformity by its participants.. the former sort can be seen, for example, in the un, which while not perfect, i believe does try its best to foster true cooperation between people of all nations.
the latter of sort of cooperation, however, is more akin to the type found in communist dictatorships or countries controlled predominantly by a single religion which doesn't care to protect the rights of those in the religious minority.
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It's much easier to cooperate with those in the same mind set and beliefs as yours...like JW's uniform conformity. However, the real test of a human being is cooperating and accepting those who are not in the same place as you. JWs fail miserably at that.
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Family dynamics and cult influence
by longgone inthe following incident is nothing unusual to any jw, but i wanted to add on to the list of reasons to never join, and sympathize with those stuck in it, and again a reminder that you can never get away from the mayhem when you have family still in.
in a recent conversation with my jw sister who i love very much, i was reminded how complex and abnormal relationships can become within a jehovah's witness family.families relationships can be difficult with any religion or none, but once we throw in the various labels and restrictions within the jw family it becomes really cultish.
no one outside it could begin to understand.
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Great post! The JW family dynamics are tremendously exhausting! Your post magnified the "theocratic politics" that weave through families, immediate and extended, for generations. Throw in some divorces and remarriages and it really is exasperating. I'm sure that many on the forum have experiences such as yours...maybe even worse. Many families are so messed up over the JW minutia of BS.