It wouldn't be a difficult choice for me to make. Either 21 months of mandatory military service or becoming a JW with the possibility of being fully indoctrinated and messed up for the rest of my life. I'd choose the 21 months of service and a free life and mind, afterwards. Imagine sacrificing your entire life for 21 months. Thank goodness that everyone in SK doesn't feel that way. Otherwise, NK could just walk across the the DMZ and take over SK.
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Potential draftees turning to Jehovah's Witnesses
by Tahoe ini think we all knew this would happen.. http://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.asp?newsidx=258119.
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192-page books
by Fred Franztone inthis is my 192nd post, so i thought it'd be fitting to ask a somewhat banal question which i've occasionally pondered over the years.
does anyone know what's behind the wt's penchant for 192-page books?
is there some kind of logistical reason for this?
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exjwlemming
I always thought it was odd that everything that they had to include in a book could be done in exactly 192 pages??
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Were You Close To Your Non JW Family?
by minimus ini was thinking of how little i know about my father’s side of the family.
i recently inquired about ancestry.com and i’ve come to the realization that even the closest sides of my family via my father, are unknown to me .
what a shame that jehovah’s witnesses kept us apart.
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Before my family became Jdubs, we use to see my family a lot. We would visit my local aunt, uncle, and cousins almost monthly. We would drive about 6 hours to visit other aunts, uncles, and cousins. We even went on holiday trips together at times. We visited family in Florida, Wisconsin, and Texas. After their conversion and for the next 25 years, I can count on my hand the number of times that I saw family. It was usually for a funeral or wedding (only the reception or wake because the church was evil). I have 2nd cousins that I had never met. I probably would not have recognized my first cousins as well. It is sad how the WT encourages separation between unbelieving family members except when you should try to convert them. I regret those 25 years of indoctrination. -
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elder bags.
by blownaway innot sure if this was every where or just our area, but you could always tell who was big shit top dog in the hall elders by the size of their bag.
my dad used to call them elder bags.
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Commercial airline pilots carry the same suitcases/briefcases for flight maps and technical aircraft manuals in case of an inflight emergency. I never understood why eldurs needed such large cases for "theocratic" litter-a-ture.
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Check out the JW tchotchkes on Etsy
by exjwlemming ini'm interested in seeing what jw trinket on etsy is the most appalling to the exjw community.
go to www.etsy.com and just search jw.
just when i thought that i found the most disturbing item, another comes along to top it.
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A few of my favorites:
Are chapped lips a major issue for pioneers? Extreme cold or heat sends them to the local coffee shop for most of the morning
Do I want my kid to be a walking billboard at school? This should get his ass kicked.
It's missing the 3 fold cord around their necks.
This will look real impressive if we ever do a quick build again.
Could there ever be an uglier piece of fabric?
They seller needs to understand that they need to lose the cross.
Show me where you were touched.
Do you also make matching nipple rings?
Now, this is "fake" news!
Just don't put it between your legs!
11. https://www.etsy.com/listing/607022516/90s-sing-praises-to-jehovah-retro?ref=shop_home_active_19
Perfect tank top for my gym workout.
I don't even know what to say.
Yes, I have too much time on my hands.
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Check out the JW tchotchkes on Etsy
by exjwlemming ini'm interested in seeing what jw trinket on etsy is the most appalling to the exjw community.
go to www.etsy.com and just search jw.
just when i thought that i found the most disturbing item, another comes along to top it.
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I'm interested in seeing what JW trinket on Etsy is the most appalling to the exjw community. Go to www.etsy.com and just search jw. Just when I thought that I found the most disturbing item, another comes along to top it. There are nearly 10,000 items.
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Anyone pissed at their parents for raising you in the cult?
by blownaway inmy mother was not the most emotionally stable person.
she was a follower and instilled in me the idea we were better than those worldly people.
its hard to go to school as a child and you can not be friends outside of school, you can not celebrate any holidays, and you are told all these people are going to die.
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Yes, I am pissed that my parents introduced me to this cult. Your parents are suppose to protect you from unhealthy influences until you can protect yourself. My parents really had no need that I can see to join the JW cult. My mom was college educated with a good job. My dad was in the Marines and had a lucrative job and a good career. They were well off. They didn't have any mental issues like many that join. My mom had a good heart and let some "sisters" into her home one day. I remember as a young kid that she use to have this self help book on the shelf titled, "How to say, No." My mom couldn't say no..except to me and my sibling. Well, some "sister" was using her to fill her "time card." After being told to drop her as a study when fast enough progress wasn't being made, she disobeyed and continued studying with her off and on for the next 10 years! Likewise, my father and I were indoctrinated as well. My life was wasted away by the choices that she had made, as well as the choices that were required that I make. I could have done so much more with my interests and talents. Now, her grandchildren are trapped in this cult and they are all required to shun me. They are stuck in dead end menial jobs with a meager education. Even though, I wanted more for my kids, offered more, and could see the org for the joke that it is, the kids were indoctrinated too. The family dynamic is dysfunctional and the family destroyed due to the WTBT$. Yes, I'm pissed.
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Circuit Assembly Experiences
by Tallon inmany years ago, in the congregation i attended at the time, there was a brother who had endured bad health over many years.
as result he underwent a number of operations - a couple being life saving operations.
at one or two circuit assemblies he was interviewed on the platform where he related how he endured ill health.. for me, i felt very uncomfortable listening to his experience and, i actually felt embarrassed for him because i have never been one to speak of any health issues i had, let alone publicise it from the platform.
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I remember a particular assembly part that must have made most JWs feel terrible. They were interviewing a single mom of 3 boys that received dialysis several times a week, works a full time job to support the family, and was a reg aux pioneer. It made my self sparing, lazy ex feel like crap. In order to build herself up after hearing the "experience" at the assembly, she would tear me down all the way home. "You don't do enough." "You should be reaching out for more privileges." Actually, I wanted less "privileges!" Thus, she is my ex. It would happen after ever assembly. She would compare herself to some "exemplary" circuit stooge that was chosen to show others that they don't do enough and could do more. The GB are dumb as foxes. They know exactly what they were doing.
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Concerned Parent
by ConcernedParent ini'm writing for some advice from former jws.
my family is christian, and my 15yo daughter is "dating" a jw boy.
(the quotes are because they aren't old enough to actually go out on dates... they consider themselves bf/gf and have hung out and gone places with each other, but always with parents, family, etc.
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I would be very wary of the relationship and the situation. Because of their young ages, there is still a great danger of your daughter becoming indoctrinated. If you try to pull her away, it may drive her closer. She needs to be educated in the dark side of JW life and not be roped in with the "lovebombing."
My ex-wife had a crush on a JW boy in high school. He was far from the best example of a JW brother. He got in fights, spent alot time in the dean's office, slacked off in school (why bother the end was coming in the mid eighties), drank alcohol, and regularly got drunk. He hid this from the congregation. However, my ex had self esteem issues and suffered through the death of a close family member. He befriended her and she became interested in the JWs. He started a study with her at school because her parents were opposed. They are from a non-christian belief system. A young sister took over the study for awhile and he became the congregation hero for finding a "sheeplike" one. They studied at school during her lunch period without her parents knowing. She was ripe for the pickings. She had severe emotional issues with the death and the mental abuse in her family. Her family life was very dysfunctional and unhealthy for a young woman. She fell for the life, hook, line, and sinker.
My unbelieving family was attending the same hall as the her and the double life brother. He offered me a Bible study and my parents encouraged me to study with him. I liked her and started to study with him to spend more time with them. Ultimately, she dropped out of college, we got married, had 2 kids, and spent about 25 years in WTland. I had learned TTATT (the truth about the truth) and it cost us our marriage. However, I am finally out but my kids (young adults) and my parents shun me and will not have anything to do with me. They are uber dubs but I have hope that one day they will wake up and see the WTBT$ for what they are. BTW, the double life brother is now a DFed raging alcoholic who destroyed his marriage. However, most of his kids were not baptized so he still gets to spend time with them. How ironic.
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who has been out the longest?
by stan livedeath inwho has been out of the cult the longest ?.
i'll start--i resigned in 1971, but attended occasionally as a non-interested husband to keep the wife sweet, untill my last circuit assembly in autumn 1980. no connection with the cult since then.
so--its either 47 or 38 years, depending on how you see it.. which begs the question--why am i on this site now ?.
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I'm surprised to see that some left before 75. Remember...stay alive to 75! Many jumped on the spiritual bandwagon just before 75 and hoped to ride the coat tails into a "para o dice" earth. I guess you saw through the crap before 75. Good for you.