Posts by ilikecheese

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Problems of Dating the Watchtower Way

by enigma1863 in

i wanted to know what problems you have learned about dating in the "truth" acording to there policy.

i feel like you dont really know someone until you live with them.

also some put on a false personality until they get what they want i.e.

ilikecheese

As a non-JW, the idea of not being able to spend any time alone with your intended before you get married is weird as hell. People are very different one on one than they are in a group. You're not going to know them AT ALL. And if you have to be considering marriage to even date, that pushes things through way too quickly. I just imagine on their wedding night, "So what's your middle name? What do you do for a living? How many siblings do you actually have?"

The Watchtower's general idea that everyone just wants to have sex all the time with anyone who comes with different genitals is super weird. I can imagine an elder saying... "I saw a plumber go into your home. I've seen video proof of what happens when a plumber goes into a woman's home. Do you have some confessing to do?"

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Do you sense "a sense of urgency" in the congregations?

by truthseeker in

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friends

now that we're in the 21st century, and all those pre-millenium worries that a few had about armaggedon seem to have gone, everyone seems to be getting on with their lives, buying homes, going on cruises and planning for their retirement.. not everyone does these things, but there is so little talk about the great tribulation, armaggedon and the new system, you can't help but wonder if they are just going through the motions.. i see young people at the hall - they couldn't care less about spiritual things, although they may comment and go out in service.. i see people in the 30s quietly getting on with life - a few are building their own homes from scratch, others are planning on moving and some have bought new cars.. nothing wrong with this, but each of these things show an investment in the future.

a car has to be paid for (if its a lease), a home needs a 15/25/30 year mortgage and this all takes time.. time with a capital "t".. let's face it - the urgency is gone.

no one thinks about the "time of the end" and everyone does their own thing.. families are still having children.. one of my college professors once asked me: "how do you know that people have confidence in the future?".

ilikecheese

The other day, my JW boyfriend and I were talking about how everyone is going to die someday, including us. We're only in our 20s. He clearly doesn't think the end is coming in his lifetime. That's probably why he's still on the JW fence. "Eh, Big J is taking his time. So will I."

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Do Facebook "Friends" That Constantly Brag, Irritate You?

by minimus in

jw
friends

there are a few people who are fb friends that constantly brag about themselves, their looks, their accomplishments, their bodies, their job---etc.. one particular person is too close to ignore but it's never ending.

i am thisclose to telling her, to please stop it.. any thoughts?.

ilikecheese

People who complain constantly irritate me WAY more. My absolute favorites are the ones who say, "I'm so sick of people complaining about everything. I mean, your life could be as bad as mine." Okay, so isn't that complaining, too? :P

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How often do you see the Witnesses out on the ministry?

by rory-ks in

i only ask because i hardly ever see them out on the ministry.

it is a very rare sighting to spot them actively engaged in the house to house ministry.

or out on the street work, in the marketplace, etc.. the other reason i ask is because they are constantly pictured as being on the preaching work.

ilikecheese

I have NEVER seen Jehovah's Witnesses out in my entire life. Seriously. Ever. If it weren't for my boyfriend, I wouldn't have the foggiest idea what they believe. Meanwhile, I see Mormon missionaries at least once a month, if not more often, and I've had more Baptists knock on my door than anything else. Clearly those Jehohos are doing a great job!

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XLVIII - GO BRONCOS!

by dazed but not confused in

with a 26-16 win over the pats, broncos are heading to the super bowl!.

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ilikecheese

I'm a Niners fan who works with a ton of Seahawks fans... most of whom are frontrunners. I think I might get some assault charges at work tomorrow. :P

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So George Takei posted a JW pic on his Facebook

by ilikecheese in

jw
friends

http://www.facebook.com/georgehtakei.

it's just a silly door-knocking related picture, but it's generated a bit of arguing about how he shouldn't make fun of them.

plus there are some apologist/"apostate" facebook wars... the best kind of wars, right?!

ilikecheese

Faithful Witness, if you just scroll down on that link up there, there's a picture just a tiny ways down of a bunch of doors. It says "Jehovah's Witness training center."

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So George Takei posted a JW pic on his Facebook

by ilikecheese in

jw
friends

http://www.facebook.com/georgehtakei.

it's just a silly door-knocking related picture, but it's generated a bit of arguing about how he shouldn't make fun of them.

plus there are some apologist/"apostate" facebook wars... the best kind of wars, right?!

ilikecheese

http://www.facebook.com/georgehtakei

It's just a silly door-knocking related picture, but it's generated a bit of arguing about how he shouldn't make fun of them. Plus there are some apologist/"apostate" Facebook wars... the best kind of wars, right?! Anyway, someone should post the video of Anthony Morris talking about "gay pants" on there. George is a huge gay rights guy, obviously, and if enough people saw that, it could generate a bit of attention!

I would post it, but my boyfriend is on Facebook a lot, and I don't want him to see me bad-mouthing them. Trying to win him away from them by not saying lots of awful things... no matter how much I'd like to!

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Important scripture about the Faithful and Discreet Slave

by Crazyguy in

its been mentioned here before that the governing body almost never mentions the verses in luke about the faithful and discreet slave.

one reason is because the scriptures are more in detail but could this also be the real reason they don't mention these scriptures.. .

luke 12:41new international version (niv).

ilikecheese

Oh, I know it's the same thing, basically. I was just showing what the various translations said because of the comment before mine.

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Rich Man and Lazarus

by Ding in

i have never understood the watchtower's explanation of the rich man and lazarus story jesus told in luke 16. of course, they don't believe jesus is talking about what happens in an "afterlife" after people die.. but from the watchtower's point of view:.

1. who are the five brothers?.

2. why can't lazarus go witness to them?

ilikecheese

Bump. I want to see what other people think.

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What is with the WT obsession with King David??

by BU2B in

it seems like at least once a month he is brought up as a good example in the study wt.

it seems like he is given more praise than jesus.

have you noticed this?

ilikecheese

I'm not a JW, but I think they like to stress God's "imperfect leaders," so that all of their constant mistakes are more acceptable. "Hey, at least Anthony Morris isn't having an affair with one of the other GB's wives and then killing the other GB member! He's just fixated on pants that showcase a man's butt."

I think they just really want to drive home the fact that God "uses" people who make lots of mistakes. It's a thinly veiled attempt to validate themselves.