my jw boyfriend says this all the time whenever i'm venting about life and some of its disappointments, career aspirations and how hard they are to make happen sometimes, problems with friends/family, or just random stuff that gets to me.
i'm not a negative person or anything; i only get moody occasionally.
i am a woman; it's kind of required.
Quadrophrenia is about right. :P He's a kooky one.
That article explains it some. I just hope the part of him that realizes the nonsense wins over the part that's just devoid of thought and is mostly drooling. I feel like it will happen. Maybe it's just being idealistic! But one can hope.
my jw boyfriend says this all the time whenever i'm venting about life and some of its disappointments, career aspirations and how hard they are to make happen sometimes, problems with friends/family, or just random stuff that gets to me.
i'm not a negative person or anything; i only get moody occasionally.
i am a woman; it's kind of required.
Haha thanks for the reply.
Honestly, I think part of him realizes it's nonsense, but part of him wants to believe it. He's one of those one parent got into it when he was a child, his other parent didn't, and he's never gotten baptized because he's not SURE. So when he says these things, it's half trying to make me feel better, a quarter believing it, and a quarter WANTING to believe it. The way he says it makes it seem like he thinks he should be saying it, but the other part of him is saying, "What am I going on about?"
my jw boyfriend says this all the time whenever i'm venting about life and some of its disappointments, career aspirations and how hard they are to make happen sometimes, problems with friends/family, or just random stuff that gets to me.
i'm not a negative person or anything; i only get moody occasionally.
i am a woman; it's kind of required.
My JW boyfriend says this ALL THE TIME whenever I'm venting about life and some of its disappointments, career aspirations and how hard they are to make happen sometimes, problems with friends/family, or just random stuff that gets to me. I'm not a negative person or anything; I only get moody occasionally. I am a woman; it's kind of required. Like most young college grads, I do get upset at the difficulty in getting a real career going with this economy, but meh. If I'm at least working in my field and can pay the bills, it's all gravy. But we can't help getting a bit frustrated with life from time to time.
But it seems like every time I do, he HAS to say, "You won't find happiness in this world, and you shouldn't look for it." I'm a Christian myself, but I think that's hogwash and preachy-ness to an unnecessary degree. Every time he says it, I want to hit him in the brain to see if it changes anything. I guess I must be forgetting the verses in Matthew where Jesus talks about how we should just be miserable and only think about the afterlife 24/7. The idea that we can't do anything good in the world, that it's not necessary, and it's not something to aspire to makes me want to vomit. AND being in successful in this world can lead to the betterment of lives. It's not like everyone with lofty aspirations has those aspirations solely for self gain. People want to make a difference, want to change the world for the better, and what in the crap is wrong with that? And the more income you have, the more you can help! That's always been my main goal for success. To help other people.
Anyone else hear this statement enough that they'd prefer listening to David Hasselhoff CDs all the live long day? Usually he's a mostly sane and wonderful person to be with. When he starts on the JW speak, I usually try to zone out and just nod at what I think are the appropriate moments.
and it does not disappoint.
the first century brothers are on the cover, going door to door with what look like leather messenger bags.. the first article is entitled, are all "christians" christian.
and you can tell by the picture that anyone with a beard or goatee is definitely not a real christian.. the next article, remain in my word has this quote that condemns catholics but seems eerily close to what jws believe:.
I tried to see what the "..." was leaving out in the definition of disciple, where it says "The New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology explains: 'Following Jesus as a disciple means the unconditional sacrifice of [one's] whole life... for the whole of his life.'" I wonder if it says anything about sacrificing your life to JESUS, which is why they left out the middle bit? I just googled for close to an hour and couldn't find anything. Darn good thing I have no life. If anyone who has any access to that dictionary cares to share, I'd greatly appreciate it.
I also think it's sort of funny that they talk about the thousands of different denominations of Christianity. Most of us really aren't that different... In my experience, I've noticed the main differences are on less significant doctrine or church hierarchy.
Oh, and also, "A true Christian, therefore, is one who follows the teachings and instructions of Jesus, the Founder of Christianity, totally and unconditionally" Then I guess Jesus was the only actual Christian, huh? Cos the rest of us are about as perfect as Donald Trump's views on hairstyling.
The Jehovah's Witnesses "regard the Bible as their only source of belief and rule of conduct." Really? And they say the Catholics don't get all of their ideas from the Bible. I want to see them point out Biblical proof that Jesus is Michael the Archangel, was actually created, that Jesus isn't the only way... there's also an organization, that people only receive blessings through the "annointed," that there are two different types of hopes, that Jesus was going to pick an organization in 1919, etc.
And how it says that Jesus was obviously using God's name. Then why was it nowhere in the New Testament? It was a tradition before Jesus just to use Lord and God, wasn't it? And praising themselves because they go "house to house" and no one else does. And that matters because...? There are millions upon millions of new converts to the rest of us "Christians who aren't really Christians" every year, despite our lack of door to door-ness. Sheesh. Thanks for recommending the reading.
i'm sure this has been brought up before, but how can anyone claim that this is establishing some sort of organization?
it's beyond out of context, if you just look at verse 45 or 45-47. it's clearly about the contrast between people who are always behaving themselves and people who will only behave themselves when they think jesus will return.
among all of the stuff that i've learned after the bf tried to get me interested in jw-ness, this is one of the dumbest bible quote mining or scripture twisting i've encountered.
Yeah, it kind of baffles me that anyone wouldn't see parables for what they are. Most of what Jesus said was figurative, rather than literal, when he was explaining things. Just a bunch of stories for people to learn from. It's like nursery rhymes for adults.
i thoroughly enjoyed the first one and it appears, so far, that the next one will follow suit:.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sherlock_holmes_a_game_of_shadows/trailers/11150172.
-sab.
I thought it was great! Who wouldn't love Downey in drag? That should happen in every movie. I thought the cinematography in the forest scene was crazy cool, too, for those who have seen it.
i'm sure this has been brought up before, but how can anyone claim that this is establishing some sort of organization?
it's beyond out of context, if you just look at verse 45 or 45-47. it's clearly about the contrast between people who are always behaving themselves and people who will only behave themselves when they think jesus will return.
among all of the stuff that i've learned after the bf tried to get me interested in jw-ness, this is one of the dumbest bible quote mining or scripture twisting i've encountered.
I'm sure this has been brought up before, but how can anyone claim that this is establishing some sort of organization? It's beyond out of context, if you just look at verse 45 or 45-47. It's clearly about the contrast between people who are always behaving themselves and people who will only behave themselves when they think Jesus will return. Among all of the stuff that I've learned after the BF tried to get me interested in JW-ness, this is one of the dumbest Bible quote mining or scripture twisting I've encountered. I guess if you hear it enough, though, you just assume that's what it means. This must be one of the most firmly ingrained verses that people in the religion would have a hard time understanding outside of Watchtower teachings, as much as it's mentioned as the basis for the people needing an organization. I guess it probably wouldn't be a good verse to really delve into with the BF in that regard, huh?
so, a female relative of mine who is 60 but inactive in the truth had their mate dying in the hospital.
the older sister + husband and old brother (of dying man) (active witnesses) come to visit and stay at their home.
the old sister is staying at the hospital around the clock for the duration of the visit but tells her sister-in-law that she must have a chaperon at the house if she is going to be there with her husband and her dying husbands older brother?
My JW boyfriend told me about a couple from his congregation. They were both divorced, in their 50s, and they never let themselves be alone together AT ALL when they were dating. Mostly because they knew they'd get in trouble if anyone found out about it. So any time they wanted to spend time at either one of their homes, they'd call someone/anyone to be there. If no one could, they just wouldn't hang out.
It's beyond bizarre. I've been a church goer my whole life, I told a couple of people at my church about how I went on a trip with just my BF (I doubt he told anyone at the Kingdom Hall =p), and all my church buddies said was, "None of that funny stuff!!!" or something to that effect. Even if we were banging each other like screen doors in the wind, none of them would really care. Yeah, no sex before marriage and all of that (which I do believe in), but who cares? It's no one's business. If everyone who had sex before marriage is going to hell, heaven is going to have about three people in it.
I'm pretty sure adults should be trusted to make their own decisions. Come on. What we do is nobody's business but ours, the other person or people who are involved, and God. Everyone else should just keep their pervy insinuations to themselves. When people spend so much time thinking about sex, I'm surprised they don't all want to have their genitals removed due to them being evil "stumblers."
have anyone of you read, the absolutly jaw dropping paragraph in this article about a women who was hit by her husband?
its in page 25 of the 2/15/12 wt study edition (i read the dumbed down version).. .
if there was any question, that the watchtowers stance is for wives to simply take it when their husbands abuse them, this makes it crystal clear.. who the hell is scanning these things before they go to print?
This seriously makes me want to vomit. I read the article, printed it out, and made copies (to maybe distribute) when someone first mentioned it on here. The idea that a victim of spousal abuse should be blamed for said abuse is just plain evil. And no manner of "showing love" is going to make a beater stop beating. It's all about dominance and control, which rarely goes away. And any religion that completely belittles women and elevates the husband's position is clearly not going to help the situation! Especially since it seems from all the anecdotes on this website that they don't care if wives are being beaten. Love, hugs, and prayers (if you still believe in God) for all the people who've been victimized here. No one should EVER have to put up with that. And I bet if you surveyed the man in the clouds, he would be angry at anyone who used his words to justify abuse.
I know that they're ATTEMPTING to say that if you're stuck in a bad marriage and aren't going to seek divorce, you should try to be the bigger person. And in this belief system, they don't think you should leave them, so that's probably what the average JW would think. Stay with them or lose your friends, family, and religion. So for the JW who's stuck in this crap, that's the approach she has to take. Just don't let it affect me, show that I can overcome it, or whatever. I really think they should stress that the Bible DOES ALLOW for separation. I get that the Bible says only adultery can end marriage, but I've been a Christian my whole life and I doubt any of my church friends would frown on the idea of an abuse victim getting a divorce. This is the 21st century. And no one cared a lick about spousal abuse until more recent history. It was hardly going to be mentioned in the Bible. Do I think people come up with stupid reasons to get divorced? Yes, I do. Is abuse one of them? Absolutely not. Maybe it's just me, but I think the divorce rules in the Bible are more meant for "Oh, we drifted apart" or "Oh, we've already been married three months; I need a change!" Not "the best gift I could give my husband is boxing gloves and my face." Spousal abuse is worse than adultery.
On a side note, I love how the apparent "unbelieving" mate in those pictures is wearing a cross. Seriously? All these illustrations of "unbelieving" spouses being judgmental, angry, and not giving the religion a chance. These are all regular Christians, apparently. Sounds more like how JWs would react to a former JW spouse becoming a Christian, since they think we're all a bunch of Satanists. And most other Christians couldn't give less of a rat's patootie about the beliefs of JWs; most don't even know what they are. I didn't even care til the boyfriend started trying to get me interested. We don't go around condemning them all day, like they apparently do to us. In fact, I have empathy and feel badly for them being misled by a bunch of old guys who have a Neanderthal's understanding of women's issues. (And that's an insult to Neanderthals.)
wants us to enjoy life?
4. why do we need to set limits on the kind of recreation.
well to determine in advance whether some.
I must have missed out on the part of the Bible where Jesus outlined expressly how free time was meant to be spent. And there must be at least, like, 317 other commandments I didn't know about. Moses must have fallen asleep when God was sharing.
Haha thanks for the post. I can't believe lives are this controlled...
