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  News from Bethel Heavy

  by cinnamon1642 in

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  pioneer hour change is legit.

  letters are being mailed out soon to all congregations for announcement in early october right before the tract campaign starts.. .

  elimination of circuit overseers.

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  New Rumor: Downsizing Circuits/Assemblies

  by metatron in

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  heard a new rumor that:.

  the borg is going to phase out big district assemblies - so they can fit 'em in assembly halls.. they will reduce the size of circuits.

  they will synchronize c.o.

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  TTATT in a Can... Now on Google Sites

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  i found a way to get the entire spreadsheet into google so that people can take a look at it.... i also made a spreadsheet that shows the doctrines with most # of changes, ranked from most to least:.

  https://sites.google.com/site/laverdadtj2/number-of-changes.

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  Have you ever read the review of Steven Hassan's books on Cult news.com?

  by Enzo in

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  2. beliefs

  hi, to everyone my username is enzo, .

  recently a saw a video presented by john cedar presenting steve hassan as a cult expert.. .

  but read this reviews presented on cult news about steve hassan's books, and it's up to you make your own opinion about the video.

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  Soviet Communism is another example of a national cult.

  The best alternative for the word cult is ‘high control group’, which works as its own definition.
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  How much of our mind is our own?

  by jgnat in

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  2. beliefs

  margaret singer, pioneer in the study of cults, chaired the alberta psychological association (apa) task force on deceptive and indirect methods of persuasion and control (dimpac) from 1983-1987. the final report of this task force was rejected by the apa, and has not been published.

  the apa noted that the brief characterized the theory of brainwashing as not scientifically proven and lacking scientific and methodological rigor.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/apa_task_force_on_deceptive_and_indirect_methods_of_persuasion_and_control#reported_conclusions_of_the_dimpac_task_force.

  the apa has since dismissed the use of the word "cult" and switched to the term "new religious movements".

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  Apognophos: since you've no freewill and my sink is full, come over and do my dishes!

  If freewill doesn't exist, why bother with democracy?

  I believe in freewill, but freewill is not unlimited. We can't control everything about ourselves, but it doesn't mean the choices don't exist in all circumstances.
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  Have you ever read the review of Steven Hassan's books on Cult news.com?

  by Enzo in

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  2. beliefs

  hi, to everyone my username is enzo, .

  recently a saw a video presented by john cedar presenting steve hassan as a cult expert.. .

  but read this reviews presented on cult news about steve hassan's books, and it's up to you make your own opinion about the video.

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  Good work, TJ.

  To define terms, cult means groups that employ 'mind control' or 'undue influence' methods, rather than defining such groups by unique beliefs outside the mainstream. But it is not unbelievable that millions can be influenced, because dictatorships use the same methods of influence to control their population.
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  How much of our mind is our own?

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  margaret singer, pioneer in the study of cults, chaired the alberta psychological association (apa) task force on deceptive and indirect methods of persuasion and control (dimpac) from 1983-1987. the final report of this task force was rejected by the apa, and has not been published.

  the apa noted that the brief characterized the theory of brainwashing as not scientifically proven and lacking scientific and methodological rigor.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/apa_task_force_on_deceptive_and_indirect_methods_of_persuasion_and_control#reported_conclusions_of_the_dimpac_task_force.

  the apa has since dismissed the use of the word "cult" and switched to the term "new religious movements".

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  I really hate to sound like a paranoid conspiracy nut, but sometimes I do have to wonder how much certain groups like Scientology, the Moonies, or even the Watchtower have infiltrated, co-opted or blackmailed things for their benefit.
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  I am curious from a comment made, were there any protests and any conventions this year?

  by nonjwspouse in

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  i don't recall reaading on here about any.. i just wondered if any actually happened?.

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  oops i misspelled "at" in the title.

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  I vaguely remember one protest in the early 80's in Hampton, VA. I've never seen a protest in Richmond. I've read of no reports of any for the International in Landover.

  The funny thing is, in places there are protests, many of the protestors aren’t even ex-JWs.
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  Who would say that there is no "evil slave" besides the evil slave?

  by berrygerry in

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  question fit for blondie types.. happiness book:.

  "19 one tactic that he has used is by encouraging the view that there is no devil or satan.

  he is like a criminal who spreads the idea that a crime syndicate does not exist, thus lulling persons into a false security.".

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  Good point!
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  Have you ever read the review of Steven Hassan's books on Cult news.com?

  by Enzo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi, to everyone my username is enzo, .

  recently a saw a video presented by john cedar presenting steve hassan as a cult expert.. .

  but read this reviews presented on cult news about steve hassan's books, and it's up to you make your own opinion about the video.

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  I don’t get the need to ‘act professional’, since this is not a professional forum. It is a forum for those affected by the Watchtower religion.

  For the record, I don’t see why such emphasis is placed of ‘court cases’. Few of us here are going to court…though some that have child custody issues may need to. Unfortunately, courts and other government institutions, especially in the United States, have a poor track record in handling cults and coming to the aid of its victims. Sometimes they get things right, but I’m not holding my breath. The system is too easily manipulated by those who have the power, money, and influence.

  By Xenu’s nuked volcanos, there is something strange about Enzo’s whole discussion that alerts my spidey-sense, I just can’t put my finger on it. Maybe it is the manipulative usage of language. It feels like the trollish way a JW apologist argues, but we are not talking about Watchtower theology or practices, a subject that is steered way clear of.