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  Why are alot of JW's Fascinated with Sci-Fi?

  by NoMoreHustle in

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  i am still in & gradually fading.

  i have always wondered why alot of jw's that i know are really into alot of sci-fi stuff like star wars, i robot, x-men stuff etc.

  i mean they take it another level with this fantasy stuff.

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  It's fun to JWs and non-JWs alike! I find more meaning in sci-fi now than I did when I was in.

  Everybody has different tastes.

  Live long and prosper!
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  Watchtower Real Estate Holdings

  by JeffT in

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  i'm restarting my blog.

  my article on watchtower real estate is here.

  http://pathologicallyintellectual.blogspot.com/.

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  marked for later
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  Have you ever read the review of Steven Hassan's books on Cult news.com?

  by Enzo in

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  2. beliefs

  hi, to everyone my username is enzo, .

  recently a saw a video presented by john cedar presenting steve hassan as a cult expert.. .

  but read this reviews presented on cult news about steve hassan's books, and it's up to you make your own opinion about the video.

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  “…at the end what really matters is that what governments defines as a good Cult, or a destructive cult.”

  In a dictatorship, that is true. But in democracies, we have the freedom to dissent with government decisions. I’m a liberal, so I say this to my chagrin: sometimes there is no effective government solution to every problem. Governments can often be inept, or swayed to lobbyists and other special interests. Government is often ignorant about this subject and even when it recognizes a group as dangerous, it sometimes does more harm than good. The Branch Davidian standoff, for instance, is a good example of this.

  Cults thrive on playing the persecution card. That is why outright banning or arresting people in certain groups, like the Russian Government is doing, is counterproductive. In the book A Piece of Blue Sky, the author talks about the UK’s and Australia’s offensives in the 60’s against Scientology and how that played right into Hubbard’s hands.

  Groups like this have an immense legal department and or employ representatives to act on its interest in other venues, like the Watchtower becoming an NGO in the UN, now an NGO of the OSCE. They have slick PR people who employ spin to play down controversy and make the group look beneficial. Unfortunately, former members do not have the financial resources to have anyone to represent their interest or tell their side of the story. It is like David going against Goliath, but in many instances in real life, Goliath often wins.

  No matter what government agencies recognize or do not recognize, it doesn’t change reality.

  Is the Watchtower destructive?

  Tens of thousands, including children, have died because of the Watchtower’s ban on blood transfusions. Although they now allow blood fractions, in the past, this was not allowed. There were also bans on organ transplants and vaccines, which are now lifted, but how many died because of this?

  All of the Watchtower’s decisions, such as blood transfusions, are enforced by institutional shunning. Those who do not shun former members are themselves expelled and shunned. Therefore, anything a JW believes or practices is not necessary something they would have decided on their own, it is mandated from New York. They are not allowed to hear the other side of the story or any information critical to these mandates, especially from former members whom they cannot talk to, even so much as a hello. Therefore, by the time they have committed, it is almost impossible for them to make educated decision of their own choosing. As for born-ins, that is all they have ever known.

  The institutional shunning of the disfellowshipped and disassociated have resulted in the splitting of untold thousands of families, as well as ending of many good friendships. JWs have to abide by the decision of the three-man judicial committees, which are held in secret with no witnesses, notes, or representative of any kind, and neither can they express any dissatisfaction with the decision made.

  Overnight, a person’s whole support system, all their friends and family, can be gone. It is an extremely heartbreaking situation that many are grappling with on this forum. Shunning has led thousands to suicide, including some who used to post here. Institutional Shunning is emotional blackmail. It is a form of bullying.

  The Watchtower has outright lied to various governments to get their way. Take, for instance, what the Watchtower told the Bulgarian government about blood transfusions. Bulgaria bought the lie and granted recognition.

  There are many other destructive elements that could be called out, but for brevity, I will leave it there.
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  Topics I’ve Been Pondering On

  by JWINQUESTION in

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  this is my first post on here so bear with me.

  currently i am still an active jw with serious questions about the jw org.

  i was hesitant signing up but really need as much input from the people on this forum to get a clear understanding on things.

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  Welcome, JWINQUESTION!

  I am an open-minded Christian. I doubt you will see me use obscenities, online or offline. But for a few minor things, my lifestyle is not significantly different than when I was a JW.

  If two people are in a committed relationship, whether same or of opposite gender, how would that lead to an increase of STDs? As for myself, I’m not going to marry anyone of the same gender, but then I am not inclined to do so. What other people decide to do is their business, not mine.
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  Crazy Sounding Story

  by piztjw in

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  last sunday after sitting through the ca an eldurr whom i know related this story about the warwick compound construction, as related to him by someone who had just returned from their tour of duty.. "the property is over-run with rattlesnakes.

  so there are assigned brothers who catch and release them off property.

  they won't kill them.

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  A den of snakes indeed.

  Doesn't sound quite right though...are there that many rattlesnakes in upstate New York?
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  Female Perspective about WTS, marital relationship & control

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  despite my user name, am female.

  i was not born-in, began studying when i was around 20, am 50 damn years old now and have spent almost the last 30 years in that stupid religion.

  but here are some observations, make of them what you will.

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  Amen! Well said!
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  WHY are so many "spiritual" young men in the congo soo insipid?

  by hamsterbait in

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  the last gathering i went to, i was impressed by how submissive and compliant the young men were.

  more like sweet little old ladies (not knocking old women here).

  they were socially inept, and non-assertive.

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  Nothing wrong with being socially inept or non-assertive...much better than guzzling beer while skydiving out a plain and yelling, "Booyah!"

  People who don't accept people for who they are simply aren't worth being around.
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  David and Abishag

  by opusdei1972 in

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  1 king david was now very old, and no matter how many blankets covered him, he could not keep warm.2 so his advisers told him, let us find a young virgin to wait on you and look after you, my lord.

  she will lie in your arms and keep you warm.

  3 so they searched throughout the land of israel for a beautiful girl, and they found abishag from shunem and brought her to the king.4 the girl was very beautiful, and she looked after the king and took care of him.

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  It's good to be the king!
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  Have you ever read the review of Steven Hassan's books on Cult news.com?

  by Enzo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi, to everyone my username is enzo, .

  recently a saw a video presented by john cedar presenting steve hassan as a cult expert.. .

  but read this reviews presented on cult news about steve hassan's books, and it's up to you make your own opinion about the video.

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  Sorry I was away from this thread for a while...I was offering some insence to a picture of Steven Hassan.
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  My neighbor is a return visit. Should I say something?

  by Zoos in

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  2. friends

  i stayed home sick from work the other day and noticed a car group pull up to my neighbor's house.

  she's a stay-at-home mom.

  i decided it was time to retrieve something from my truck to see if i could recognize the visiting sisters.

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  There is likely a tactful way to do this. Maybe slip an 'aposta-track' in her door.