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  Watchtower Legal Department targeting Facebook and Youtube users

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
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  from an email i received of a conversation had with people from patterson:.

  it seems that the wts legal dept.

  has been working with the fb [facebook] legal dept for about a year and also with youtube whoever they are, to enforce transparency.

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  It might well be gossip that grew in the telling with a kernal of truth.
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  Watchtower Legal Department targeting Facebook and Youtube users

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  from an email i received of a conversation had with people from patterson:.

  it seems that the wts legal dept.

  has been working with the fb [facebook] legal dept for about a year and also with youtube whoever they are, to enforce transparency.

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  Another snippet of an email:

  The way it was explained to me is that they have broken it down to congregation. Each cong. has about 100 publishers. So the elders would only be looking for their members. Not full blown disfellowshipped apostates. If FB demands only real names then it wouldn't take more than 30 minutes to go through fB once a week, with the incentive that you can count your time, so that eliminates door to door work, and see if any names from his cong. is posting. If so that person is dealt like they dealt with Ricky. Remember all this does not go to the society anymore. Disfellowshipping is done only with CO approval. So it is actually very easy. Now multiple this throughout the country. It's actually very smart and efficient..The goal is to put fear in jws that are awake or are having doubts to not go to FB. They are trying to avert a mass exodus. So there is nothing illegal about this. and they are not concerned with those already disfellowshipped. They just want to keep the blinders on to those still inside.
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  Watchtower Legal Department targeting Facebook and Youtube users

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  from an email i received of a conversation had with people from patterson:.

  it seems that the wts legal dept.

  has been working with the fb [facebook] legal dept for about a year and also with youtube whoever they are, to enforce transparency.

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  Londo111

  You could be right.
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  Watchtower Legal Department targeting Facebook and Youtube users

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  from an email i received of a conversation had with people from patterson:.

  it seems that the wts legal dept.

  has been working with the fb [facebook] legal dept for about a year and also with youtube whoever they are, to enforce transparency.

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  A followup email I received. I’ve edited out parts that could be identifying.

  They were telling me that Facebook and YouTube have had a major impact negatively on the society. He said the friends don’t realize this and they want to keep it quiet so as not to raise curiosity and cause many of the rank and file to start investigating what the commotion is all about. It is hurting them more than any lawsuit...

  ...He said Facebook is being used now by many jws. This has introduce them to YouTube. The society could not keep the majority from using it with all the warnings, so they realized it was just a matter of time when the jws making use of Facebook would wonder off to some apostate site just out of curiosity.

  Also the society is now using circuit overseers to disseminate “important secretive” information to the body of elders instead of official letter writing. The society is recognizing that there are too many apostate elders who will leak information over the internet.

  So they are restricting certain secretive information so it doesn’t fall into the wrong hands. They are also encouraging elders to regularly visit Facebook sites and YouTube sites and calling it shepherding calls and can even count some time as field service. Not sure up to how many hours will count for field service. But it was mention that one elder assigned can count up to one hour a week. And they can rotate elders every CO Visit. Publishers have no idea this is happening...

  ...Evidently the new CO arrangement was made with that purpose in mind. More control of information. So this is something that has been in the works for a long time. It was something that had been planned a couple of years ago. They for saw it.

  The society knew that the internet boom would cause them trouble so they had been taking counter measures to keep secrets of organization history locked away.

  The Jw.org, the CO arrangement, prepping jws to view jw.org as the source of new light, and some new light that will be coming out, is no coincidence. It has been in the works for some time.

  BTW the society does have a group of brothers that surf FB and YouTube daily. That is their job. It is usually die hard elders who have been in Bethel for a long time. This negative information is taken into account to determine what kinds of articles and information in conventions and assemblies will be considered...

  ...So the WTS is not stagnant and doing nothing. They are fighting hard and smart and using their power to sway other corporations like Facebook and YouTube to squelch truthful information. So I would imagine that at some point in the future Facebook will announce that everyone has to use their correct identity. This will frighten any jw from visiting FB or YouTube and it will expose jws who are posting negative comments, which will alert the elders in the congregations throughout the U.S.so they can start disfellowshipping.
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  Watchtower Legal Department targeting Facebook and Youtube users

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  from an email i received of a conversation had with people from patterson:.

  it seems that the wts legal dept.

  has been working with the fb [facebook] legal dept for about a year and also with youtube whoever they are, to enforce transparency.

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  Raymond: alas, no. I've no hard evidence, nor can I verify any of this.

  This comes from an email from a ‘source’, who talked with folks he knew in Patterson. So this is definitely secondhand information. Of course, even Bethel is rife with rumors and gossip, as is the JW world in general.

  I do know the creator of Facebook, Zuckerburg, came out against being anonymous on Facebook. Of course, a billionaire who has everything likely cannot relate as to why people would have a need to screen their identity.
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  Watchtower Legal Department targeting Facebook and Youtube users

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  from an email i received of a conversation had with people from patterson:.

  it seems that the wts legal dept.

  has been working with the fb [facebook] legal dept for about a year and also with youtube whoever they are, to enforce transparency.

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  From an email I received of a conversation had with people from Patterson:

  It seems that the WTS legal dept. has been working with the FB [Facebook] legal dept for about a year and also with youtube whoever they are, to enforce transparency. They said the Society is getting thousands of letters from JWS who are starting to question some of the things they have read in facebook and seen in youtube. It is having a major effect on the organization so much that the news is that the WTS pushed the issue to stop apostate talk and find out who are the ones who post anonymously and have them disfellowshipped. The WTS has finally reached an agreement with FB to enforce the true identity policy for anyone who wants to use facebook. He said there is instructions that will be relayed to the Body of elders through the circuit overseers to review FB and youtube every week and they can count time for field service to see if any members in their congregation are posting negative information and to deal with such individuals judicially and get them out of the organization.

  I can't vouch whether these folks from Patterson know what they are talking about, but just in case, I suppose this should be floated out there.
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  2014 AGM announcement rumour

  by yadda yadda 2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from barbara anderson, former watchtower headquarters researcher and writer, on another recent thread:.

  it is expected that at the 2014 annual meeting, usually held the first saturday in october, will serve watchtower leaders well to cover-up all the 100-years of prophetic nonsense.

  rumor has it they are going to celebrate their 100-years of announcing the kingdom in an adroit way by featuring a move of "great" significance to do with the expansion of the governing body to an "apostolic" 12 or some other fantasy idea.. .

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  Five more new names. I wonder if they were showboated at the convention this year, perhaps some of the "Helpers" who were put on the big display.
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  AD1914.com Coming Soon!!

  by ABibleStudent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i visited the jehovah's witness report website today.

  i read the following article:.

  on october 1st 2014, barbara anderson will join in and participate in the launch of a new website ad1914.com.

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  Enzo seems to be a troll.

  The thought has crossed my mind that this person is a Scientologist, Moonie, Mormon, JW with an ax to grind over being labeled a cult.

  This might not be the case, but nonetheless, Enzo seems to try to flamebait quite a bit, calling into question former JWs experiences of being shunned, or whether the Watchtower enforces their ban on blood transfusions.
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  my first post! (long read sorry in advance)

  by Letts Party in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  long time lurker, first time poster here finally looking to get some things off my chest.

  i've always been a very curious person with tons of questions about everything, and i also care deeply particularly about societal issues like social injustice, racism, and homophobia.

  that, coupled with how boneheaded all the elders in my congregation are (except for one), led me to ask even more questions that led me to find ttatt.. .

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  Welcome, Letts Party.
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  Where Are You on The Witno Scale?

  by tresdecu in

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  2. friends

  1 - still think it's the truth ...came to this site cause danger is your middle name.. 2 - concerned, smoething's amiss but still believe.

  3 - 98% sure it's bs, but still go for / with family.

  4 - anger / denial, inactive with minimal attendance (ie memorial, spec talk etc).

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  5=Faded