Posts by Londo111

then the first 6 or 8 paragraphs describe how early bible accounts have trained and set aside musicians to do the singing while everyone else listened.. the songs they have put out have no soul, rhythm, or soothing melodies as a whole.

the old hymns are some real music, even if you don't agree with the "teachings".. there is no admission of poetry using archaic language at times for affect or to add to the rhyme, they have to have everything agree with the grey bible.. anyone speak foreign languages?

Londo111

The best thing for them to do is to do is to open-source the music. Let people from the rank and file make contributions and keep what works.

But then...it's a cult. They have to micromanage it.

29

Anointed Delusions of Grandeur

by Kohanic in

so here is something i've been wondering about.

how do the 'anointed' come to the conclusion that they are chosen?

is it some weird collective delusion of grandeur and how is it manifested in such ones?.

Londo111

One professed anointed pioneer lady in my area seemed not quite all there.

But on the other hand, another "anointed" brother did not seem mentally "unbalanced". He was a nice, down to earth person. He had lost his vision, but gave talks and was quite capable. Of course, at the time, I saw him through rose-colored glasses and I was someone starstruck at his "anointedness".

I don't wonder about those who are mentally imbalanced in some way...but I do wonder about those who are in apparent normal mental health, those who are not narcissistic, at why they believe they are specially called.

41

Singing todays WT

by road to nowhere in

the jist was that we all should sing.

then the first 6 or 8 paragraphs describe how early bible accounts have trained and set aside musicians to do the singing while everyone else listened.. the songs they have put out have no soul, rhythm, or soothing melodies as a whole.

the old hymns are some real music, even if you don't agree with the "teachings".. there is no admission of poetry using archaic language at times for affect or to add to the rhyme, they have to have everything agree with the grey bible.. anyone speak foreign languages?

Londo111

The maestro without clothes.

38

Analysis of 2017 vs 2016 Yearbook reports for Europe

by Splash in

so these countries roughly constitute europe.. here's how well they did in 2017 vs 2016:.

2017 peak pubs.

2016 peak pubs.

Londo111

Poland was in decline the previous year as well.

178

Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories

by Bangalore in

jw
friends

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.

for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.

the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.

Londo111

I agree with Dubstepped.

Some seem view Cedars as Christ...and some seem to view him as the Antichrist. For some of us, he is neither, especially for those of us who woke up around the same time.

For some, he can do no wrong. I get that people admire those who helped wake them up, just as I greatly admire Ray Franz, Carl Olaf Jonsson, and Steven Hassan.

For some, he can do no right. Obviously, he has make mistakes along the way. But for this crowd, there is no forgiveness and no mercy. Every word and action is picked apart. Horrible accusations are made without evidence. Hour long videos and podcasts are made ranting about this one individual. I'm more afraid of this contingent, because how do you know you are not next if you somehow run afoul of them? I can only conclude that some who've made great efforts in their personal vendettas likely have an equally sized ego.

These are the same people that see monsters and erotic images in pictures, or who insist Russell was part of a occultic Masonic conspiracy, or that the Governing Body tries to channel spirits through children. They do not stick to documented evidence like Ray Franz or Jim Penton did, but build speculative sandcastles based on interferences and gaps in knowledge.

These are the same people that want a ban on Jehovah's Witnesses, the vast majority who are victims of deception and undue influence, forgetting that if such a thing had been enacted when they were JWs, they themselves would face jail, fines, or worse. They cheer on Vladimir Putin's oppressive government.

These are the same people that do not agree with Ray Franz or Steven Hassan when it comes to the best approach to take with helping JWs. They take the approach that would enforce the brainwashing and drive individuals further into the cult.

I don't agree with Lloyd on everything, but I do independently agree with with Lloyd's position with on these two matters. When he is heavily insulted over taking these positions (for instance called an Apologist), then I feel that everyone who agrees on these points falls under this insult. The reply often is, "Well you can't be so black and white about these matters" by the very people who are being black and white about their own stand.

61