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  Olin Moyle

  by Vincent Law in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  olin moyle was a attorney for the wtbts during joseph rutherford reign.

  his papers from wtbts are still at princeton in the rare books section and boxed up.

  what is the likely hood that that there was political entanglement and that politics did not keep wtbts at arm's length but from time to time has used the wtbts for it's purposes.

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  Londo111

  JWs would say, "Old light!"
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  Drop Off in Mentioning 1914

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  videos from the summer jw conventions ("be courageous) show the "urgency" about the end racheted up several notches.

  paranoia rules supreme!.

  curiously, though, very few, if any, statements in the convention program about 1914 and the overlapping generations.

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  Londo111

  I haven't kept track in recent years.

  How much do mention 1914 in the Study edition of the Watchtower? Or in the monthly broadcasts?
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  Book of Revelation

  by Whynot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the things that really bothered me is how most of the book of revelation isn't understood by most jws.

  most of the trumpets were already sounded many decades ago, is that still right?

  it seems like most jws just look the other way.

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  Londo111

  Some JWs seem to zone out when "deep stuff" is brought up at the meetings. Many more just don't retain it.

  They can't even explain or defend their basic doctrine anymore, nor are they equipped to have any meaningful conversation with outsiders about their religion.
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  Mary Shelley the Movie

  by smiddy3 in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  has anybody seen this movie yet ?

  i really enjoyed it .and i couldn`t help but think of those with literally/poetic skills on this forum while i was watching it .. i would be interested in anybody`s comments reviews either good or bad ..

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  Londo111

  The challenge of the book is that it is the first person narrative frame of a sea captain, relating the first person narrative of Dr. Frankenstein, who when encountering his amazingly verbose monster, relates his first person narrative. At times, it's three levels deep.

  In the 19th century, authors could get away with these things.

  I still can't figure out how the monster learned to read by spying on a family through a crack in the floor or wall or wherever he was hiding.
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  Accounts report at Circuit Assemblies to go away

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was at the regional convention and asked an elder why is that at the assemblies their is an accounts report but not at the conventions?

  he said, well actually they got a letter and in it said that in a little while they will do away with the accounts report stating how much the assembly costs for the weekend and just go to donation basis like at the conventions.. my first thought was, "they will donate even less now.".

  anybody else hear about such a thing?.

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  I highly doubt it. Donations from assemblies are a prime source of income for the organization.
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  Story out of Sacramento demon possessed pioneers

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  anyone heard anything?.

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  Londo111

  The question is: did they make their time?
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  District overseers

  by Boredposter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  are they really gone in the u.s.?

  what replaces them?.

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  I used to think that District Overseers were over the Circuit Overseers like the CO was above the elders. But evidently it was never the case...it was a more elevated position, and the DO did review the CO's performance twice a year, but the CO did not report to the DO. Correct me if I'm wrong.

  But it's been a moot point for 4 years now.
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  Not Being Invited To Gatherings.

  by kennylazo1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have you ever found out that your "buddies" from the kingdom hall went out to have fun and did not invite you?

  if so how did you feel?.

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  Londo111

  I can count on one hand the number of real friends I made as a JW.
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  NWT 1984 vs NWT 2013

  by Tallon in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i recently had a discussion with a jw concerning a change in wording of a scripture - in fact this was my all time favourite scripture, namely, micah 6:8.. my view is that the wtbts have deliberately changed the wording and meaning of the said scripture.

  the other person is of the opinion that that is not the case.

  micah 6:8.

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  It was a very telling tweak. I think they based the Be Loyal regional convention on this verse.
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  Stronger than Hypnosis

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  being the society is anti-hypnosis, i know very little about it.

  but from what i've observed it often involves willing participants focusing their concentration, usually involving repetition, until the subject is in a state where suggestions can be implanted in their mind.

  bite can involve hypnosis, but in many instances it may not.

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  Londo111

  Something pale.emperor said in another topic:

  In hypnosis we call this a "yes set". You get someone to agree with something minor, then get them to agree with another minor or ambiguous thing then they're more than likely to agree with the third because the brain likes consistency.
  

  That was stunning, because this is exactly the JW indoctrination process.

  I googled 'yes set' and found this: https://hypnosistrainingacademy.com/4-covert-agreement-tactics-to-set-a-yes-mood-in-hypnosis/

  What is interesting is at how the initial points are exactly how JW Broadcasting opens and their manner of speaking and creating reporte. "We warmly welcome you... blah blah blah".

  I don't know about Watchtower leaders, but I don't think the rank and file intentional use these methods to induce a suggestible state during a Bible study. But then again, intentional or not, it would seem these method make people suggestible at the very least. Whether it qualifies as hypnosis, it certainly is deep and long lasting.

  Perhaps pale.emperor or someone familiar with this subject can weigh in.