Posts by ozziepost

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My story
by PimoElder in
1. jw
2. experiences
hi everyone i’m a pimo elder ex bethelite and pioneer who has been having doubts for many years.

as of late i’ve come to have even more doubts mainly due to the gb pushing the vaccines and acting like salesman for big pharma companies .

i will never take these vaccines even if it meant i couldn’t go to the hall as was previously said but the gb have done a big u turn on this now.
ozziepost

Welcome aboard!
as of late I’ve come to have even more doubts mainly due to the GB pushing the vaccines and acting like salesman for big pharma companies
When I look back on my own time in the period of doubts, what I did, along with Mrs Ozzie and another couple who were our bestest friends and fellow travellers, was to gather those doubts into a list. We took the “JWs - What Do They Believe” brochure and used it as a checklist of beliefs we agreed with, those we didn’t and those we weren’t sure about.
We agreed to spend time in further researching of those core beliefs and then meet up again in a year’s time.
It was amazing that after one year there was nothing left in keeping us in that system of errors and so the exit was made.
As a result we now enjoy true freedom.
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What are Jehovah's Witnesses' stance on home ownership?
by timothytha in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
what do people usually think of when they buy a house?

"i will probably live here for a long time" (you're invested with your time), "i will save money by building equity over time".

(you've invested in yourself financially for the long run) of course, i wouldn't be able to list the numerous reasons why people want to buy a house.
ozziepost

Would it be wise to buy a house, or would it be considered being worldly and materialistic and an overall poor investment (spiritually speaking)?
Haha, this reminded me of the language of the Witchtower in Questions from Readers or in the Awake! 😁
’salright mate, not criticising, it just made me smile 😊
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When did JWs stop reciting the Lord’s Prayer together?
by slimboyfat in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
does anyone know what year?

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ozziepost

Interesting question. I didn't know they ever did that
Me neither. I learnt to recite it at school but one thing I have learned since exiting the borg so many years ago is that no matter what brand of Christianity people adhere to, the reciting of the Lord’s Prayer unites people.
And that must be a good thing.
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TIME MAGAZINE -Cult article - singles out Judge Rutherford
by Terry in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,738983,00.html.

big, blue-eyed judge joseph frederick rutherford, 60, lives in a ten-room spanish mansion, no.

4440 braeburn road.
ozziepost

It is as if the cognitive dissonance has them looking back at Old Light with found memories. It is like an old person smiling and saying, "We were so young and naïve back then." It is downright scary.
Well said! It IS a scary thought, especially for those of us with loved ones still entrapped.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
ozziepost

Or was it his father-in-law used as bait…..cause trouble and my in laws will lose their only living child and grandchildren as I will take them and move away…..
I can’t see that likely. From what I remember their attitude would have been to lack sympathy and use guilt words like loyalty and persecution
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
ozziepost

I tried watching a few of his videos but never finished any because he takes HOURS to say what someone concise could deliver in 15 minutes. When you leave Watchtower as old as I did you don't want to waste any more time than necessary on the subject
I’m glad you thought that, I’d been thinking it was just me up till now!
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Watchtower Jul 22 - Jesus directed the GB on how to deal with Covid
by Listener in
1. watchtower
2. bible
14 jesus provides wise direction in times of crisis.

the benefits of that direction were evident when the covid-19 pandemic broke out.

while many in the world were uncertain about what course to take, jesus made sure that we received clear guidance to keep us safe.
ozziepost

If they're not inspired how does Jesus communicate with the these guys? As for not being infallible, they tell their followers to obey even if it seems unreasonable.
Dead right George!
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Watchtower Jul 22 - Jesus directed the GB on how to deal with Covid
by Listener in
1. watchtower
2. bible
14 jesus provides wise direction in times of crisis.

the benefits of that direction were evident when the covid-19 pandemic broke out.

while many in the world were uncertain about what course to take, jesus made sure that we received clear guidance to keep us safe.
ozziepost

The elders were reminded to maintain regular contact with all in the congregation and to be aware of their physical and spiritual needs. (Isa. 32:1, 2)
That scripture speaks of princes ruling for justice, a bit of a stretch to claim it’s a prophecy about elders in JW congregations in the past couple of years caring for the members of their congregations in times of need.
What might be appropriate though is the use of the term “ruling” - we sure know about that, eh !
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Watchtower Jul 22 - Jesus directed the GB on how to deal with Covid
by Listener in
1. watchtower
2. bible
14 jesus provides wise direction in times of crisis.

the benefits of that direction were evident when the covid-19 pandemic broke out.

while many in the world were uncertain about what course to take, jesus made sure that we received clear guidance to keep us safe.
ozziepost

14 Jesus provides wise direction in times of crisis
In that case he was providing that same direction to peoples around the world because what they claim as direction to them mirrors what all people were hearing.
It would be more convincing if they could show they received direction that was unique to them.
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Jehovah's Witnesses: remembering the weird and wacky!
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
do you remember some of the weird and wacky stuff emanating from the watchtower society?

let's make a list from memory that we can use to inject a little humor into our discussions with jehovah's witnesses.

- venus may be an enormous jurassic park.. - germs don't cause disease.. - no beards allowed.
ozziepost

The point is not who originated 1914. The point is that the WTS has taught and still teaches this wackiness.
As an aside, I’d say they can’t get out of it, it’s locked in.
The alternative would be to acknowledge that “wicked” Christendom has it right.