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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  Grifters gonna stick together and feed off each other

  Yep, and it’s good to see some real evaluation. A bit like with the emperor’s new clothes, the herd just repeats what they hear.

  Thanks, Simon, for telling it like it is.
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  Should a Christian celebrate Christmas?

  by Samsie in

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  2. beliefs

  hello, i'm new here and have woken up to the real truth concerning the org.

  i'm sort of fading away at the moment.... i need help with something, i used to as a child celebrate christmas and have always had amazing memories of it (my husband hasn't as he was born into the org) but i gave it up when i learnt the "truth".

  my interest was only in pleasing god and still is.

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  Oh dear, oh dear, show me a scripture to back up your argument and I’ll show you mine!

  This does not reflect well to Samsie.

  Look, people, keep this in mind when quoting scripture to back your argument, especially GodBeliever:

  CONTEXT, CONTEXT, CONTEXT!!!

  I found it helpful when I was exiting the Dubs to read plenty of Bible commentaries to help me evaluate scripture texts. Then I went to Bible college and it has opened my eyes to what is really being spoken about in various Bible passages.

  BTW merely quoting scripture texts in isolation and out of context is no proof, quite the opposite.

  Cheers,

  Ozzie 🍷
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  Should a Christian celebrate Christmas?

  by Samsie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello, i'm new here and have woken up to the real truth concerning the org.

  i'm sort of fading away at the moment.... i need help with something, i used to as a child celebrate christmas and have always had amazing memories of it (my husband hasn't as he was born into the org) but i gave it up when i learnt the "truth".

  my interest was only in pleasing god and still is.

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  So I assume it's not part of Christian belief and worship to God.

  No, it’s not but do you think, or rather know, that it’s part of christian belief and worship? From what I’ve seen snd experienced, christians celebrating christmas do so out of thankfulness and joy, not because it’s some sort of ritual.

  He never mentioned Christmas

  No, he didn’t just like he isn’t reported as saying a lot of things but we can’t by inference make rules based on the absence of words. Witness teaching does just that and that sentence reads from the Witness play book.
  
  
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  Should a Christian celebrate Christmas?

  by Samsie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello, i'm new here and have woken up to the real truth concerning the org.

  i'm sort of fading away at the moment.... i need help with something, i used to as a child celebrate christmas and have always had amazing memories of it (my husband hasn't as he was born into the org) but i gave it up when i learnt the "truth".

  my interest was only in pleasing god and still is.

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  Samsie:

  As an old-timer I add my welcome to you.

  You know there was a time when Witnesses celebrated Christmas but in a move to differentiate themselves from “the world” it became a no-no.

  Still I can recall my own young years growing up in a Witness family celebrating Christmas up until my high school years.

  Like you say, there are happy childhood memories of those family occasions. Let’s face it, it was a joyful time, it was fun!

  As others have commented, why not celebrate your children’s birthdays? Those days are an important ‘right of passage’, a recognition of their taking their place in the world, of celebrating how well they are growing into people who have a destiny. The Witnesses cannot point to a scriptural prohibition of birthday celebrations, or Christmas for that matter. They simply parrot the line that bad things happened on birthday celebrations in the Bible. In other words, they are adding “man-made” words to the Bible.

  How does your husband feel about all this? That will determine just how much celebrating you do. Even so, I’d suggest you take things a bit at a time, gradually accustomising yourselves to a change in lifestyle.

  For myself, I’m very involved in a church these days but when Christmas time comes around I choose not to have a lot of the traditional decorations, but concentrate on what christmas actually means, Christ coming into our world. Different families at church celebrate christmas in different ways, there’s no rules, that’s the important thing.

  So, enjoy it!

  And again, Welcome aboard!

  Cheers,

  Ozzie🍷
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  original reddit post (removed).

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  @ Anna Marina

  I am sure that Christine’s experience is not unusual. For sure, in my own case and that of my wife, ‘correct procedure’ was not followed. Verbal haranguing was used on the part of elders and to this day, several decades later, I have not been advised personally of any “Announcement”.

  Looking on the bright side, they have done us all a favour, we have learned the blessed freedom in Christ. Who on earth would want to forgo that and return to such a wicked environment that promotes harshness, not love, and abuse instead of “Come to me….and I will give you rest.”

  Cheers,

  Ozzie 🍷
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Thanks LMsA,

  you’ve put it “in a nutshell” for those who’re wondering what all this is about.

  Cheers,

  Ozzie 🍷
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  The Morning Star was given me last year - 'hidden manna' now available for your review

  by JohnRossStar in

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  hi - quite the introduction, huh?

  so the 'morning star' is christ himself and he has guided my thinking and studies to uncover where exactly the wtb&ts went off track, offending jehovah greatly and causing him to 'abandon his sanctuary'.

  i've posted the information on reddit jwexwatchtower - please study the articles carefully and put them to the test versus scripture.

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  This is the big one folks - we'll be in the thick of it much sooner than you can imagine.
  You now have a lifeline.

  Would this be Stephen Lett in disquise?
  
  
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  Climate propaganda

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  gotta love jwdotorg as usual regurgitating the financially/politically motivated (and thoroughly disproved) climate change propaganda:.

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/series/more-topics/ruining-the-earth-bible-meaning-hope/.

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  “Thoroughly disproved” - shouldn’t that be “unproved” ?
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  The resurrected will not get a change of clothes in the New System

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | september 2022.

  20 what an exciting time the thousand year reign will be!

  it will include the greatest educational program ever undertaken here on earth.

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  It is about the jeffro, vs. wt scholar debate, Daniel's statues and author status.

  [big smile] love those guys !
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  The resurrected will not get a change of clothes in the New System

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | september 2022.

  20 what an exciting time the thousand year reign will be!

  it will include the greatest educational program ever undertaken here on earth.

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  Perhaps the lecture is all about how they didn’t get the prize of heaven but got second prize.