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  well ive found my old (ex) jw friend

  by MUNKAFATS in

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  ive been looking for her for ages , when we were at school she was a jw and so nice , then when i was about 26 i bumped into her again and i didnt like what i saw , i asked her what happened and she said she had found drugs , that was the last time i saw her (i was very dissappointed),anyway she then dissappeared again so i assumed she had gone back to being a jw , but ive found her this morning(im 38 now) , ive spoken to her and she says that she still believes but doesnt go to meetings etc but that her parents are still in although her parents still have just as much contact with her, i brought up this disassociating thing with her and she said her parents wouldnt do that as they love her to much .

  i also spoke to her about this site and others , she says she never really thought about sites like this one , i got the feeling she doesnt want to know or is to scared to find out more although she says the only reason that she left the "truth" was because she hit puberty , all in all she only had good things to say to me about the org and that she had some really great times but that she believes you dont have to be in to be saved , im glad ive found her as we have traded numbers and will keep in touch , im not a jw but was just reading their books (not actually having a formal bible study) and it will be great to talk to someone who has seen both sides , its more personal as ive never been good a letters

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  Does everyone keep to themselves on the Chatham Islands?

  Population

  The Islands have a population of 753 (1991 Census: Population usually resident in Chatham Islands County)

  The population is relatively young in comparison with New Zealand centres. Over 300 people live in and around the main centre, Waitangi. Centres with populations of over 70 include Kaingaroa, Owenga and Te One. Approximately 50 people live on Pitt Island.

  http://www.sll.fi/mpe/chatham/#anchor274634
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  ? for you all

  by MUNKAFATS in

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  we all have different talents etc and as ive never been a witness just read their books why is it that we have 3 kids and our youngest has a gifted mathmatical mind (teacher says hes in the top %2 of the population at 5 years old ) .

  would the jw then say this is from satan ?

  and if not then why could he not use it to his greater good , my question isnt about jw doctrine , i just think about this when jw come to visit me as its got to be from somewhere ??

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  i don't think even a dub would stoop to saying that talents are from satan

  and that these god-given talents can be used in "the new system™" - how often I've heard the expression "there'll be plenty of time in the new system for (this or that)"

  Frankly, I could never see life in their "new system™" being as great as they imagined - too much work from what I could see! I imagined a society of drones doing the bidding of an "Organisation™" much like in many a totalitarian society.
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  Will The New Watchtower Kill Off The Awake?

  by metatron in

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  i don't know if any of you have considered this but is the new watchtower arrangement partly intended.

  to permit the end of the awake magazine?.

  it is a financially difficult thing for a religion the size of the "truth" to publish one - much less two .

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  ozziepost

  There is a KM printed for each branch. Although the WT is identical around the world, it is printed at various branch offices. It would not be difficult to add a few pages of branch specific KM articles and announcements on a monthly basis

  Yes.....and No!

  As I've already mentioned in a previous post on this thread, the magazines are not identical worldwide. Sure, they may look the same (cover, etc) but it works like this: The back page and one or two inside pages are left blank when they arrive at the printeries. (Incidentally, it is not true that each country prints its own magazines. There are specially designated printeries around the world and they print magazines for their stipulated countries. For example, Japan may print for Australia, etc) The local branches insert their own pages to give local flavor.

  On this basis it shouldn't be too difficult to insert the KM material into the Publisher edition of the WT.

  BTW Time magazines does something similar with its various editions worldwide.
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  Will The New Watchtower Kill Off The Awake?

  by metatron in

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  i don't know if any of you have considered this but is the new watchtower arrangement partly intended.

  to permit the end of the awake magazine?.

  it is a financially difficult thing for a religion the size of the "truth" to publish one - much less two .

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  Also, they will never put the OKM in the Watchtower as the OKM is specific to the country or geographic location that it is being used in. It would mean printing different WT's for every country and that is significantly more costly considering the logistics of it.

  It already is.
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  ? for you all

  by MUNKAFATS in

  1. jw
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  we all have different talents etc and as ive never been a witness just read their books why is it that we have 3 kids and our youngest has a gifted mathmatical mind (teacher says hes in the top %2 of the population at 5 years old ) .

  would the jw then say this is from satan ?

  and if not then why could he not use it to his greater good , my question isnt about jw doctrine , i just think about this when jw come to visit me as its got to be from somewhere ??

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  how would a gifted guitar player etc help in the org ?

  They don't, any artistic expression is not encouraged.

  Think of the Luddites and you get some idea of the GB and their WTS.

  From what I've seen, it's an awfully discouraging life being a Witness and a musician.
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  good in jehovah's witnesses

  by John Doe in

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  i thought it might be nice to see some positive things mentioned about jw's.

  now, i know mentioning these things may be hard given the experiences here, but i've yet to find a group of people who don't have something positive about them.

  if there weren't something positive, no one would ever join.

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  unfortunately, a sweet older brother or sister who is nice as hell, would probably assume god is going to kill me, all of us on this board, at armageddon.

  And the sweet older brother or sister would still be the one to shun you!

  Sorry, I don't buy this "sweet" business.
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  good in jehovah's witnesses

  by John Doe in

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  i thought it might be nice to see some positive things mentioned about jw's.

  now, i know mentioning these things may be hard given the experiences here, but i've yet to find a group of people who don't have something positive about them.

  if there weren't something positive, no one would ever join.

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  IMO the question is wrong.

  You can speak of individuals in an anecdotal way but "saying something good about jehovah's witnesses' calls for answers about them as a collective body i.e. "the Organisation™".

  How can there be anything good about that evil empire?
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  good in jehovah's witnesses

  by John Doe in

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  i thought it might be nice to see some positive things mentioned about jw's.

  now, i know mentioning these things may be hard given the experiences here, but i've yet to find a group of people who don't have something positive about them.

  if there weren't something positive, no one would ever join.

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  ozziepost

  I always appreciated the sincerity of a few of the older men and women in my congregation.

  You are kiddin', aren't you?.....well, aren't you??? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  Will The New Watchtower Kill Off The Awake?

  by metatron in

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  i don't know if any of you have considered this but is the new watchtower arrangement partly intended.

  to permit the end of the awake magazine?.

  it is a financially difficult thing for a religion the size of the "truth" to publish one - much less two .

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  ozziepost

  I agree, stilla ! (well, I usually do, eh? !)

  That would mean that the material and outlines for both the main congregation meetings are in one publication.

  Just think, the Society would also get "donations" for it, something they don't get with OKM.

  It'd also 'save' having to wait for the book study overseer deliver it to you!

  Yep, a win all round.
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  Did Kangaroos Hop All The Way From Ararat?

  by metatron in

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  if evolution is false and the account about noah's ark is true, then how did kangaroos get to australia?.

  did they hop across the himalayas and vast stretches of asian deserts and a now extinct land bridge.

  linked to australia - or swim from island to island?

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  Apparently Jehovah took a break from his 7th "day off" and did a special creation event down under.

  That was when he was making the "Lucky Country" !