G'day barry,
How's it down there? warm up here.
Anyway, i think you've illustarted the danger of labels.
IMO if a person identifies as a label rather than a belief system i.e. christian, then we have cause to question.
Cheers, ozzie
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Are Seventh-Day Adventists a better Church to belong to than being a JW
by jwfacts ina lot of exjws need an answer to "where else to go?
" and some people seem to need to belong to an organization.
doing some research on answers.yahoo.com i noticed that both jws and mormons come in for a lot of criticism for being manipulative cults.
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Are Seventh-Day Adventists a better Church to belong to than being a JW
by jwfacts ina lot of exjws need an answer to "where else to go?
" and some people seem to need to belong to an organization.
doing some research on answers.yahoo.com i noticed that both jws and mormons come in for a lot of criticism for being manipulative cults.
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G'day V,
I don't think my comments were that the SDAs are a cult; I was addressing the question which is "are they no better than being a JW?" and on that basis I commented.
I repeat, mainstream christians seem to me (see, I observe too! ) to be just as blind to the error found in the SDAs as they are in the Dubs or the Mormons.
Part of that blind response is to be misled by their smiling faces or their conditional "love".
In the hell hole of Pol Pot's Cambodia, there were examples of peasants being seduced by his winsome smile. (See the book "The Pol Pot Regime" written by historian Ben Kiernan) We all know what happened later!
My point is that tyrants portray themselves as genial benefactors and our being aware of this should guide us in how we viewgroups or organisations.
So, it matters not one hoot how friendly and pleasant are the SDA relatives. Yes, Mrs Ozzie and I have had friendly relations with SDA people too, but it's quite irrelevant. It's whether the code of belief is valid is what matters.
My concern is that searching people may simply be jumping from "the frying pan into the fire" by leaving the dubs and then joining up with some other controlling and/or exclusive group.
Cheers, Ozzie
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Are Seventh-Day Adventists a better Church to belong to than being a JW
by jwfacts ina lot of exjws need an answer to "where else to go?
" and some people seem to need to belong to an organization.
doing some research on answers.yahoo.com i noticed that both jws and mormons come in for a lot of criticism for being manipulative cults.
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jwfacts:
Good question and rather timely downunder. You see, it surprises me that downunder the christian 'mob' seem to be blind to seeing what is wrong with 'em! I'm speaking of th evangelicals here, who I would have thought would be holding firmly to their own code, yet they smile when the SDA's are mentioned and simply affirm that they are just another denomination.
That's so much BS and they know it! Yet they would rather vilify the Dubs and the Mormons. In my book, if it's wrong, it's wrong.
Typical of these blind responses is this one from Vernon Williams above,
My wife's aunt and her kids are SDA....really great people....very kind....
Don't people say that of the dubs? Yet their 'niceness' belies the evil they represent. Sorry, that argument doesn't wash.
BTW there were many people who thought Hitler was 'nice' too. That didn't make him good though.
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Hello all.....................
by BLISSISIGNORANCE in.............it's been ages.
i thought i'ld drop in and see who was still around from the old school and how many newbies are here.
good to see people are still leaving the wts.
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ozziepost
'ello, 'ello,'ello to you too!
Ciao.
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Things to do tomorrow
by nvrgnbk in1. treat yourself with kindness.
2. treat someone else with kindness.
appreciate, recognize, and dignify a stranger.. .
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ozziepost
LOL @ Carmel!
Perhaps once is not often enough, eh?
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I am having a bad day
by Vivamus init is wearing me down.. my constant companion in life, my skull-breaking- mind-blowing- daily migraines finally got the better off me six months ago.
i broke down, i cried and cried and cried.
not only cuz of the pain, but more for the fact that painkillers were not helping me anymore.
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ozziepost
Viv,
Told Mrs Ozzie about your plight. She sends her love.
Ozzie
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CAUTION:
If anyone feels tempted to give precise details of Florida, it may tell where they are residing. Get what I mean?
Only reveal what you are 'happy' to reveal.
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Viral meningitis
by BrentR inhow long did it take to get over it?
i woke up last sat with severe forehead pain and later on very bad nausea.
i went to the docs on mon and was diagnosed with a migraine and the lab results came back on wed with an elevated wbc.
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Brent:
I was just wondering if anyone else had it and had any tips or experience to pass on.
See: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/16/149780/2723794/post.ashx#2723794
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Viral meningitis
by BrentR inhow long did it take to get over it?
i woke up last sat with severe forehead pain and later on very bad nausea.
i went to the docs on mon and was diagnosed with a migraine and the lab results came back on wed with an elevated wbc.
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G'day Brent,
I guess the doctors told you that there are two types of meningitis, viral and bacterial. If you get bacterial, you're in real trouble - seldom will you avoid having some form of permanent damage, perhaps hearing loss etc etc.
I take it you had the required path tests done to determine if there were any nasty bacteria lying around your body? Since you're posting away, I'd say it was viral for if it were bacterial you'd likely not just have the greatest head pain imaginable but you'd also have partial paralysis.
Still you'd be best to rest up - don't overtax your body's resources.
As for pain relief, some morphine or derivative is best but even then you'll only get about ½ hr's relief every 4 hours.
Sorry, it ain't good news I bring!
Hopefully it will pass soon.
Get Well Soon thoughts coming to you from downunder.
Cheers,
Ozzie
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Vote for your favorite "celebrated JW scholar"!!
by onacruse innow, there are so many from which to choose...where is one to start?.
well, since i'm an old-timer, i must by default cast my vote for clayton j. woodworth, that inspired author and editor of the golden age who single-handedly warned the world about the dangers of aluminum cookware and vaccinations, among so many other things.. only once in a generation comes along a man with such inspired insights as to baffle the minds of mere ordinary humans..
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I'd like to vote for Brother Anonymous who wrote the "Daniel book" - y'know where he wrote that the "ships of Kittim (Cyprus) was actually British Navy ships, "lying off the western coast of Europe".
Huh?? Yeah, right.