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Why does the Watchtower material not capitalize the pronouns in reference to Jehovah

by I_love_Jeff in

"koine greek was the language used by writers of the old testament greek septuagint and the greek new testament.

the original greek new testament was written in all capital letters, without spaces, punctuation, accents or diacritical marks.".

http://biblescripture.net/greek.html.

I_love_Jeff

"Why should the writers of an English translation follow Koine Greek grammar or punctuation rules?"

To be consistant with the JWs so called accurate interpretation of ancient scripts. They follow the rules to a tee, why not add that special feature just to be consistant? All capitals-Koine Greek, all capitals English language. Also, it is a bit strange seeing caps for certain words pertaining to humans (for example-YOU) BUT no caps for pronouns (him, his, he) referencing the Creator of the Universe-Jehovah.

"Then to ?YOU? I will cause my spirit to bubble forth; I will make my words known to ?YOU.24Because I have called out but ?YOU? keep refusing, I have stretched out my hand but there is no one paying attention,25and ?YOU? keep neglecting all my counsel, and my reproof ?YOU? have not accepted,26I also, for my part, shall laugh at ?YOUR? own disaster, I shall mock when what ?YOU? dread comes,27when what ?YOU? dread comes just like a storm, and ?YOUR? own disaster gets here just like a storm wind, when distress and hard times come upon ?YOU."28

NWT Proverbs 1

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Is Dr. Furuli suggesting that we are allowed a little room for freely interpreting Bible verses?

by I_love_Jeff in

dr. furuli says that when interpreting the bible verses, " ....readers of the bible should have the possibility of "informed consent" and be given the tools to make "informed choices".. be given the tools to interpret bible verses????.

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I_love_Jeff

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Why does the Watchtower material not capitalize the pronouns in reference to Jehovah

by I_love_Jeff in

"koine greek was the language used by writers of the old testament greek septuagint and the greek new testament.

the original greek new testament was written in all capital letters, without spaces, punctuation, accents or diacritical marks.".

http://biblescripture.net/greek.html.

I_love_Jeff

"Koine Greek was the language used by writers of the Old Testament Greek Septuagint and the Greek New Testament. The original Greek New Testament was written in all capital letters, without spaces, punctuation, accents or diacritical marks."

http://biblescripture.net/Greek.html

Since the Jehovah's Witnesses interpret Bible verses using the ancient manuscripts, you would think that they would actually do what the writers of the Koine Greek Septuagint did and capitalize every single word in the New Testament.

Also, why is it that in the NWT there are certain phrases that have caps while others do not? It seems a bit inconsistent and hypocritical when they are so anal about the proper interpretation of ancient Biblical texts that they do not copy the same style as those writers of old.

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Is Dr. Furuli suggesting that we are allowed a little room for freely interpreting Bible verses?

by I_love_Jeff in

dr. furuli says that when interpreting the bible verses, " ....readers of the bible should have the possibility of "informed consent" and be given the tools to make "informed choices".. be given the tools to interpret bible verses????.

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I_love_Jeff

Dr. Furuli says that when interpreting the Bible verses, " ....readers of the Bible should have the possibility of "informed consent" and be given the tools to make "informed choices".

BE GIVEN THE TOOLS to interpret bible verses????

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Are the Governing Body members gambling without even being aware of such?

by I_love_Jeff in

with regard to gambling, jehovah's witnesses teach:.

every form of gambling is tainted by greed.

so christians do not take part in any kind of gambling, such as lotteries, horse racing, and bingo.

I_love_Jeff

With regard to gambling, Jehovah's Witnesses teach:

Every form of gambling is tainted by greed. So Christians do not take part in any kind of gambling, such as lotteries, horse racing, and bingo. (Ephesians 5:3-5)

If you look at it this way, the theory behind gambling is taking a chance and being dependent on chance NOT God/Holy Spirit. Keeping this in mind, when the Governing Body members change doctrine from "Old Light" to "New Light", is this in fact a form of gambeling since they are making changes (mistakes)? Hit and miss? Gambling on holy spirit?

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According to the understanding of parables in the "Insight Volume 1" book, is the hearer allowed interpretational freedom

by I_love_Jeff in

regarding illustrations (parables)-.

"because the hearer is left to apply the principles of the illustration to himself, it can carry to him a clear message of warning and rebuke, at the same time disarming him so that he has no ground to retaliate against the speaker.

in other words, as the saying goes, if the shoe fits, wear it.

I_love_Jeff

Regarding Illustrations (parables)-

"Because the hearer is left to apply the principles of the illustration to himself, it can carry to him a clear message of warning and rebuke, at the same time disarming him so that he has no ground to retaliate against the speaker. In other words, as the saying goes, ‘If the shoe fits, wear it.’ When the Pharisees criticized Jesus for eating with tax collectors and sinners, Jesus replied: “Persons in health do not need a physician, but the ailing do. Go, then, and learn what this means, ‘I want mercy, and not sacrifice.’ For I came to call, not righteous people, but sinners.”—Mt 9:11-13".

"Finally, the factors in an illustration should not be given an arbitrary meaning, one gained from a private view or from philosophy. The rule is set forth for Christians: "No one has come to know the things of God, except the spirit of God. Now we received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is from God, that we might know the things that have been kindly given us by God. These things we also speak, not with words taught by human wisdom, but with those taught by the spirit, as we combine spiritual matters with spiritual words."-1Co 2:11-13."

Insight Volume 1 pg. 1175-1176

If God's spirit is with every single Jehovah's Witness, then the guidance given by spirit to assist in understanding a specific verse pertaining to a special event in one's life allows for interpretational freedom. With regard to parables, if each parable pertains to one's own personal experience in a particular circumstance is that not called interpretational freedom?

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If Luke 16:19-31 is fictional then would that not apply to Matthew 24:45-47 as well

by I_love_Jeff in

how do the jehovah's witnesses determine which parable is to be taken literally, such as matthew 24:45-47, and which one, for example luke 16:19-31, is an allegory?.

are both parables not open to interpretation in the eyes of the jehovah's witnesses?

are they using the eisegetical approach to scripture?.

I_love_Jeff

Indian Larry-LOL!

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If Luke 16:19-31 is fictional then would that not apply to Matthew 24:45-47 as well

by I_love_Jeff in

how do the jehovah's witnesses determine which parable is to be taken literally, such as matthew 24:45-47, and which one, for example luke 16:19-31, is an allegory?.

are both parables not open to interpretation in the eyes of the jehovah's witnesses?

are they using the eisegetical approach to scripture?.

I_love_Jeff

How do the Jehovah's Witnesses determine which parable is to be taken literally, such as Matthew 24:45-47, and which one, for example Luke 16:19-31, is an allegory?

Are both parables not open to interpretation in the eyes of the Jehovah's Witnesses? are they using the eisegetical approach to Scripture?

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Does the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" have a free pass to be able to judge others

by I_love_Jeff in

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it seems we have a contradicition here:.

"determining whether someone has gone far enough to be guilty of gross uncleanness or loose conduct is a serious responsibility, for lives are involved.

those judging such cases should do so prayerfully, asking god for his holy spirit, discernment, and understanding.

I_love_Jeff

It seems we have a contradicition here:

"Determining whether someone has gone far enough to be guilty of gross uncleanness or loose conduct is a serious responsibility, for lives are involved. Those judging such cases should do so prayerfully, asking God for his holy spirit, discernment, and understanding. Elders need to maintain the purity of the congregation and must base their judgment on God's Word as well as on the direction of "the faithful and discreet slave."

Watchtower Magazine 7/15/2006

"Jehovah can read hearts, while we cannot. This in itself is a good reason for us not to be judgmental. We do not know all of another person's motives. We should try to imitate Jehovah by not fixing our attention on human imperfections, which will eventually disappear."

3/15/08 Watchtower Magazine

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Why are the Jehovah's Witnesses allowed to call others names such as "Satan" or "viper" for example

by I_love_Jeff in

if jesus and jehovah are the only ones who can/allowed to read hearts.

in other words, jesus and jehovah give themselves permission to judge the pharisees/ sadducees.

why are the jehovah's witnesses allowed to call others names such as "satan" or "viper" for example if they are not allowed/able to read hearts?.

I_love_Jeff

if Jesus and Jehovah are the only ones who can/allowed to read hearts. In other words, Jesus and Jehovah give themselves permission to judge the Pharisees/ Sadducees. Why are the Jehovah's Witnesses allowed to call others names such as "Satan" or "viper" for example if they are not allowed/able to read hearts?

I understand that since Jesus said some vicious comments to the Pharisees/Sadducees, such words would be deemed as acceptable to the Jehovah's Witness Dictionary of insults.

"Jehovah can read hearts, while we cannot. This in itself is a good reason for us not to be judgmental. We do not know all of another person's motives. We should try to imitate Jehovah by not fixing our attention on human imperfections, which will eventually disappear."

3/15/08 Watchtower Magazine

A Jehovah's Witness said this to me this morning:

"As for the magic thing, yes the watchtower magazines warn about the dangers involved in some forms of magic. But again, as stated, you will find no specific references to smurfs."

So if the publications do not give reference to a specific movie then it's okay to see Harry Potter???? Does that film not promote magic?

I_love_Jeff

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