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Why remove John 8:1-11 in the NWT if these verses speak highly of Jesus

by I_love_Jeff in

i understand these verses were removed in the nwt as well as some other bibles because they were added later & considered uninspired.

jesus protected an adultress so why remove it?

it fits in nicely with his teachings, does it not?

I understand these verses were removed in the NWT as well as some other bibles because they were added later & considered uninspired. Jesus protected an adultress so why remove it? It fits in nicely with his teachings, does it not?

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Why remove John 8:1-11 in the NWT if these verses speak highly of Jesus

by I_love_Jeff in

i understand these verses were removed in the nwt as well as some other bibles because they were added later & considered uninspired.

jesus protected an adultress so why remove it?

it fits in nicely with his teachings, does it not?

I understand these verses were removed in the NWT as well as some other bibles because they were added later & considered uninspired. Jesus protected an adultress so why remove it? It fits in nicely with his teachings, does it not?

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Should Jehovah follow the lead of the elders and the Faithful Slave where punishment is concerned?

by I_love_Jeff in

how can one's love of god be pure while being tainted by the fear of punishment?

satan would point out that those who claim to love jehovah are merely afraid of being destroyed by him.

it is for this reason that we conclude that the only appropriate punishment for sinners would be a temporary and voluntary separation from jehovah god.

How can one's love of God be pure while being tainted by the fear of punishment?

Satan would point out that those who claim to love Jehovah are merely afraid of being destroyed by him. It is for this reason that we conclude that the only appropriate punishment for sinners would be a temporary and voluntary separation from Jehovah God. Under this plan, wrongdoers could choose, at any time, to turn around and make their way back to the light.

The disfellowshipping arrangement has been designed with this principle in mind. Disfellowshipped ones may come back at any time. Therefore, with this provision in place, it can be more convincingly argued that decisions handed down by the elders are not cruel, but meant to help bring lost sheep back into the fold. Similarly, if God allowed us to stray from him indefinitely (without the threat of eternal destruction), he could easily refute Satan's complaint by explaining that sinners may return to the light at any time without the fear of being harmed. Satan would not be able to claim that our love of God is related to our fear of destruction at Armageddon.

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Will Paradise Earth eventually turn into a fascist like government?

by I_love_Jeff in

there is truly potentiality.

jehovah's witnesses always say that jehovah will take care of, in other words destroy, the sinful people like homosexuals, pedophiles, thieves ect.

subconsciously they themselves want to do the destroying.

I_love_Jeff

Thank you Prologos

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Will Paradise Earth eventually turn into a fascist like government?

by I_love_Jeff in

there is truly potentiality.

jehovah's witnesses always say that jehovah will take care of, in other words destroy, the sinful people like homosexuals, pedophiles, thieves ect.

subconsciously they themselves want to do the destroying.

I_love_Jeff

Excellent points HayDay!

itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat-I'd like to know the name of that book as well!!

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Will Paradise Earth eventually turn into a fascist like government?

by I_love_Jeff in

there is truly potentiality.

jehovah's witnesses always say that jehovah will take care of, in other words destroy, the sinful people like homosexuals, pedophiles, thieves ect.

subconsciously they themselves want to do the destroying.

I_love_Jeff

There is truly potentiality. Jehovah's Witnesses always say that Jehovah will take care of, in other words destroy, the sinful people like homosexuals, PEDOPHILES, thieves ect. Subconsciously they themselves want to do the destroying.

This new system of things has great potential for becoming such an intolerably oppressive government.

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Do you see an equivalency here between the Word of God and the word of the Anointed?

by I_love_Jeff in

is this commandment, let us cover our territory four times in six months, really as binding as when jehovah said to the logos in gen.1:26 let us make man in our image?.

taken from the watchtower, july 1, 1943 page 204-206, righteous requirements:.

the lord breaks down our organization instructions further and makes them more practicable by further instructing us through his faithful and wise servant.

I_love_Jeff

Is this commandment, “Let us cover our territory four times in six months”, really as binding as when Jehovah said to the Logos in Gen.1:26 “Let us make man in our image”?

Taken from the Watchtower, July 1, 1943 page 204-206, Righteous Requirements:

“The Lord breaks down our organization instructions further and makes them more practicable by further instructing us through his “faithful and wise servant.” He says, ‘Let us assign the field, the world, to special pioneers, regular pioneers and companies of Jehovah’s Witnesses...” Then there are details given on hours and back-calls for pioneers per month. The mouthpiece continues, “These directions come to us from the Lord through his established agency directing what is required of us...This expression of the Lord’s will should be the end of all controversy...These directions from the Lord...” Now, more details are given for individuals and companies dealing with territories. The Anointed then say, “...there is absolutely no excuse for anyone, man or woman, to claim to be unable to accept an individual territory assignment and assume full responsibility for it. Those who really love the Lord and are fighters for the New World will not try to excuse themselves on that or any other ground, but will hear the Word of the Lord when he says, Let us do thus and so...The Lord through his “faithful and wise servant” now states to us, “Let us cover our territory four times in six months.” That becomes our organization instructions and has the same binding force on us that his statement to the Logos had when he said, Let us make man in our image.” It is our duty to accept this additional instruction and obey it”

Once again, how is this commandment as binding as when Jehovah said to the Logos in Gen.1:26 “Let us make man in our image”?

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If 144,000 in Revelation is literal then why is the number in the Greek language in plural form?

by I_love_Jeff in

thus indicating indefiniteness, thousands?

see rev.

5:11 and 7:4. strong g5505.

I_love_Jeff

The point I am trying to make is that the Book of Revelation is OPEN to interpretation. I made a rhyme lol. The question previous to this as well as this one DOES suggest interpretational freedom of MANY verses if not all.

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If 144,000 in Revelation is literal then why is the number in the Greek language in plural form?

by I_love_Jeff in

thus indicating indefiniteness, thousands?

see rev.

5:11 and 7:4. strong g5505.

I_love_Jeff

thus indicating indefiniteness, THOUSANDS? see Rev. 5:11 and 7:4

Strong G5505
Original Word: χιλι?ς, ?δος, ?
Part of Speech: Noun, Nom. Feminine PLURAL
Transliteration: chilias

Revelation 5:11 I saw, and I heard something like a voice of many angels around the throne, the living creatures, and the elders; and the number of them was ten thousands of ten thousands, and thousands (CHILIAS) of thousands; (WEB KJV WEY ASV BBE DBY WBS YLT NAS RSV NIV)

Revelation 7:4 And I heard the number of those sealed, (144 thousands (CHILIAS) were sealed out of all the tribes of the sons of Israel): (YLT)

http://biblehub.com/topical/t/thousands.htm
Cognate: 5505 xiliás (a feminine noun derived from 5507 /xílioi, "one thousand") - literally, "a thousand"; the cube of 10 (103); also used figuratively to express absolute inclusiveness (complete totality). See 5507 (xilioi).

NAS Word Usage - Total: 22
thousand 20, THOUSANDS 2
http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/greek/nas/chilias.html

In both verses, the word (chilias) being used is feminine PLURAL (THOUSANDS) . This means it is an exceptional usage which does denote a non-literal amount of time.

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In Revelation, why is one verse to be taken literally and the other figuratively?

by I_love_Jeff in

why is the great crowd in rev.7:9, standing before the throne mind you, to be taken figuratively and on earth if the same description (before the throne) in rev.

14:3 is used in a literal sense and in heaven?.

rev.

I_love_Jeff

THANK YOU DATA-DOG!!!

I_love_Jeff

Posts by I_love_Jeff

I understand these verses were removed in the NWT as well as some other bibles because they were added later & considered uninspired. Jesus protected an adultress so why remove it? It fits in nicely with his teachings, does it not?

I understand these verses were removed in the NWT as well as some other bibles because they were added later & considered uninspired. Jesus protected an adultress so why remove it? It fits in nicely with his teachings, does it not?