What if freedom is something that is wrong?
I suggest you go and live in North Korea or Iran for a period of no less than 5 years and tell us if you still feel that way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.
What if freedom is something that is wrong?
I suggest you go and live in North Korea or Iran for a period of no less than 5 years and tell us if you still feel that way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.
First off, I don't think existence is what is being argued in this thread. It's more like this. Even if there is a god out there who started all of this he obviously doesn't care and wants to hold our species hostage so why should we bother worry about him?
For a start, who decides what is morally wrong?
It really isn't that difficult, over time, experience is gained on what works and what doesn't (natural selection as NC brought out). Then it's just a matter of group consensus, and crafting laws around the principals of freedom, and not violating other individual rights, and a series of penalties (death penalty included). This is just common sense, and god is not needed to tell us this.
Ponder this: Many of the the things that were ok in the bible and sanctioned by god are not acceptable in todays society, like slavery and genocide. God doesn't get to tell us what is morally right/wrong, when he is the biggest hypocrite, when it comes to violence and hostility. Hostility in creating humans with freewill and demanding that they bow to him or have life withheld; to me that is like saying my child must kiss my feet every morning, or i'll let him starve to death. Sorry that just doesn't work for me, to quote Chris Hitchins "God is not great".
hypothetically: .
you are in a room with two other people.
you barely know them, but they are kind of nice people.
I gladly would die a heros death, because it beats being old, and dying a slow death in a hospital with a kbag.
That was really funny. Welcome to the forum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.
The sun is much older than 35,000 years.
Well, Thor is as old as lightning! You just can't handle the troof can you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.
You keep addressing me though which makes me want to respond.
I know...it's so confusing isn't it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.
Sab - please, don't feel like you have to respond to me, by all means help us understand! My comments are more rhetorical at this point of the thread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.
Thor kicks some ass!
Damn straight...don't f@ck with Thor!
1. Flood.
2. Angel of death in Egypt.
3. Palestine genocide.
4. Israel defense.
5. 185,000 solidiers smote in the evening.
6. Crusades.
7. Armaggedon.
32 “This is what Jehovah of armies has said, ‘Look! A calamity is going forth from nation to nation, and a great tempest itself will be roused up from the remotest parts of the earth. 33 And those slain by Jehovah will certainly come to be in that day from one end of the earth clear to the other end of the earth. They will not be bewailed, neither will they be gathered up or be buried. As manure on the surface of the ground they will become.’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.
Tip of the day:
Remember Jeehoover is the God of freedom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.
Taking up where Sab left off.
So God does intervene? How? Please describe this in as simple a way as possible, because I don't understand.
He will intervene and soon. He is going to smote all the blasphemers. And fix this broken system once and for all. Submit to him or die, very simple.
2 Thess 1:
6 This takes into account that it is righteous on God’s part to repay tribulation to those who make tribulation for YOU, 7 but, to YOU who suffer tribulation, relief along with us at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels 8 in a flaming fire, as he brings vengeance upon those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus. 9 These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting destruction from before the Lord and from the glory of his strength, 10 at the time he comes to be glorified in connection with his holy ones and to be regarded in that day with wonder in connection with all those who exercised faith, because the witness we gave met with faith among YOU.