http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.
We should support an ally such as Israel even to war if need be. It would be a shame not to because they need our help, as does the entire Middle East.
So we should pay for their bad choices to force themselves to live in the middle of a war zone, because of some religious beliefs on their end, with our blood and treasure? How does that even make sense?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.
Sab - we're going in circles, we've already proven his beliefs come nowhere close to your ideas of god so let it go! It's just noise at this point, and doesn't add weight to your argument.
force =/ god
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.
A militant atheist is any atheist that actively works toward a world without God.
This is very confusing to me. Do you mean political decision making without God? If that is the case i'm definitely of the 'militant' nature. Why should we follow Israel down a rabbit hole with the Muslim world?
I would Really like an answer to this question.
P.S.
If you want to worship god in your living room, or church whos going to stop you? Freedom should always afford you that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.
Though that doesn't make Einstein a religious person in the Go to Church 3 times a week sense, it still means he is not an atheist. And the quote I have given again below and posted previously surely proves that Einstein would not agree with the thrust of the video that started this thread. In that sense, surely Einstein is on Sab's side, don't you agree?
Andrew - Apology accepted. No one is arguing that Einstien was an atheist; his position is much more like that of an agnostic (and even that is a stretch). The thrust of the video is commenting on the foolish logic of a diety that the bible conveys to us; which is pretty spot on if you believe the bible and look at the state of the earth and mankind. Einstein commented on the mysteries that he could not explain through the powers of observation that were available to him at the time, and expressed no belief in any god.
Supposition: I have to believe that someone as rational as Einstein would agree that the bibles logic of a diety is something he "could not take seriously". Sab's position if you read back through the threads, is that God is involved in earths affairs now (he will bless the U.S. and we need his blessing). I don't think Einstein would be in that camp; his words and actions showed that he wasn't reliant or interested in praising some diety. He believed us to be on our own in terms of our problems.
Given this - I don't think that would put him in Sab's camp, as Sab's position doesn't match that of even the agnostic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.
Bottom line, Einsteins positions are not on your side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.
Sab take a look at this link below it breaks it down quite well (with other quotes). He used the term religious (with a very different connotation than you asserted and the topic of this thread) in the context of his feelings of awe in the face of the mystery of the cosmos. This had nothing to do with god, but everything to do with the unlocked mysteries of the universe.
http://atheism.about.com/od/einsteingodreligion/tp/EinsteinMysteryReligion.htm
So you are saying Einstein was making a claim without evidence?
I suggested no such thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.
What is this force that he is speaking about? Answer the question.
Who knows, but it sure wasn't god.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.
Einstein never said he believed in god (please study this term), he just didn't preclude that there may be a power that is not understood, that may have started all this; which does not equate to god. To claim Einstein beliefs even remotely resemble your twisted ideas about god and religion is just an insult to everyones intelligence. Einstein is not on your side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.
Dishonesty coverup attempt: Sab you stated - "Einstine [sic] said he was religious".
