Posts by tootired2care

I sure don't have any great answers for you, but I have observed this behavior in animals too. We have cats. It's so funny when they are doing something that they are not supposed to , and when you say something or give them a look, the whole countenance on their face changes, and it's so obvious that they know they did something wrong, because they usually quickly escape the situation. As a child I observed that dogs have very similair behavior too.

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Christian Apologists - Please Watch This and Tell Us Why it is wrong?

by cantleave in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.

tootired2care

Christ outside of the Bible, coming to us in our reason, feelings or whatever: that is mysticism, not Biblical Christianity: it leads to Anything Goes and ends up being dominated by the false ideas which the Bible was given partly to deliver us from.

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Christian Apologists - Please Watch This and Tell Us Why it is wrong?

by cantleave in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.

tootired2care

Very well stated NewChapter. I hope this goes into your book if you choose to write one.

When we focus on the genocide, rape, dead children, stonings etc we are told by believers that this is wrong, and we should focus on the love and generosity. Well maybe it is the believers who are focusing on the wrong things! We are just as correct as the warm and fuzzy christians who edit out all the uncomfortable stuff. That is the bible. You pick and choose the parts you would like to emphasize, and criticize others for choosing different parts. Now an all powerful god really could have protected his reputation and prevented all this nonsense from being ascribed to him, but he did not. Either he is not all powerful, or he not all loving, or he is just having fun and playing a chess game to see who will crack the code, or he is a creation of humans who really did believe these things in the time and culture in which they wrote such nonsense. I'm going with the last option.

So let's say that there is justification for this god not intervening in evil. Is there justification for leaving believers confused, working with conflicting messages, and absolutely no way to clear things up? Would THAT be too much power? A clear message that modern people could understand and then choose to follow or not? At least it would be fair. No, instead believers cling to scripture written by people that lived in a time and place we can never fully understand. They are left on their own to pick and choose the relevant parts. And if someone chooses genocide as relevant, and another person chooses forgiveness as relevant, then they are both fully supported by the bible. And they are both condemned by the bible. It just depends on what scriptures you use. Flaky book. That's what this god has given----a flaky book. Which makes it all the more unlikely, and weighs heavily on the atheist's idea that this was always just a human attempt to explain the world and deal with our fears.

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Let's talk music!

by BreathoftheIndianNose in

jw
friends

what is your favorite band/artist right now?

what music do we need to know about?

frank ocean is my addiction right now.

tootired2care

Ulrich Schnauss - I just discovered his stuff like 2 months ago, and now i'm hooked, I ended up buying all 7 of his albums! It's great music for mind focus and escaping reality at the same time if that makes any sense.

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Christian Apologists - Please Watch This and Tell Us Why it is wrong?

by cantleave in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.

tootired2care

Is this thread a pity party now?

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If you knew that a murder was going to take place......

by Sour Grapes in

if you knew that a murder would take place and did.

nothing to stop it would you share some responsibility?.

if you knew that your neighbor was going to be robbed.

tootired2care

I think if you're going to believe in god the jw's (I realize there are other faiths that share this view) seem to have the most logical explanation - God is allowing all this to happen until armageddon. Otherwise he is completely guilty of all bad that has happended and is going to happen.

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I find it funny that you said this in a thread about God ignoring people in trouble.

What does that have to do with this? Are you asserting that U.S. help to Isreal equates to intervention from god?