Posts by pandora

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Has This Place Helped You To Come Out Or Stay Out Of The Organization?

by minimus in

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everytime i read a page of topics, i can't help but accept that the witness religion is such a fraud.. keep up the good work in exposing the watchtower society!.

pandora

This place is a shot in the arm sometimes.

There was a time when I was here daily. This place helped me remove the blinders and see the cult for what it truly is. It gave me the guts to stand up to my mother and her 'guilt trip'. It made me realize I wasn't the 'bad girl' and I didn't 'Deserve' all the bad things that happen to me. Bad happens, just like good happens. None of it hinges on whether or not you are a Jehobah witness. The day I realized that was the day my load was lifted and I could stand tall in my life and be proud of who I am and how I got here.

I don't 'need' the place as much now. I know the Truth and nothing can change that. But it is nice to come home to the place that made me see the light.

I don't visit as much as I would like, but I love this place.

It holds a very high place in my heart.

Thank you all!!!

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ok jw teaching aside, can you see a time coming when religon will cease to exist?

by highdose in

possibly this could happen in a dramatic sudden way or a slow burn but can you see the human race progressing to the point were they no longer need to belive in these myths and legends?.

pandora

Has anyone here seen the movie "Idiocracy".

Sadly, it is a comic version of a very scary possible reality as America dumbs itself down.

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It is Thanksgiving...

by pandora in

what are we thankful for?.

i'm thankful that my eyes were finally opened and i saw the jw cult for what it really was.

i'm thankful that even before that, i was smart enough to rebel and get out.

pandora

What are we thankful for?

I'm thankful that my eyes were finally opened and I saw the JW Cult for what it really was.

I'm thankful that even before that, I was smart enough to rebel and get out. Even though I had no clue why I felt that way.

I'm thankful for my husband. Smart man, helped me finally see this 'truth' for the LIE it is.

I'm thankful for my wonderful daughter, who I raised to love life and people and not God. She is the best child a mom could ask for. I'm so proud of her.

I'm thankful for her dad. Without him, she wouldn't be here. Without him, I wouldn't be here. Thank you.

Your turn.....

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GB vote on the blood ban.....when? Where was it reported?

by Gill in

could someone please help me with a little information please.. who was it who revealled that the governing body had voted on removing the blood transfusion ban but had not received a two thirds majority?.

i know franz talks about them needing the two thirds maj. to make doctrine but when did they vote on blood ban?.

gill.

pandora

Thanks TD- I was confused because the dates seemed to say that the current cards have that word on them. Thank you for clearing that up. Pj

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GB vote on the blood ban.....when? Where was it reported?

by Gill in

could someone please help me with a little information please.. who was it who revealled that the governing body had voted on removing the blood transfusion ban but had not received a two thirds majority?.

i know franz talks about them needing the two thirds maj. to make doctrine but when did they vote on blood ban?.

gill.

pandora

Warren I'm sorry, but I don't fully understand the timeline you posted earlier. Which blood card are they using now? The one that says 'allogeneic' or the one that Doesn't use that word? Thanks. Pj

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to join or not

by dontknow in

i've had in the past studied a little about the bible with jws but have yet decided to be baptised.. i've just read lavenders' moving letter to her son and her love and well being for him is very obvious.

i do like the bible teachings very much and to this day i'm very interested in the end of the system of things which will very soon come to fruition; i'm a very strong believer, however i must stipulate to all, in retrospect i'm not sinless.

one of the posters says that jw's ask you to do a liitle bible study with them, attend one of their meetings and when you get baptised you have to do exactly what you are instructed or else.

pandora

You asked: "what is one to do; not speak or have anything to do with life long friends, just end the association?" Actually, when you get baptised, that is exactly what they will expect. Those who have friends outside of the Truth are considered weak. You are suppose to get all of your friendships from within the ranks. If you keep your 'worldly' friends, you will feel the pressure to get rid of them. This includes, wordly family members. Your brothers and sisters in the truth will be all the family you 'ever' need. This is why it is so hard to leave. Because you end up cutting yourself off from the world outside the orginization. Most of the time you do this willingly. You may actually WANT to leave these good people behind. But one day, you will look around and you will have no one except THEM (the brothers and sisters). And THEY won't let you leave. I grew up inside. My mother got 'the truth' when I was only a year old. I have 3 sisters. All of which got baptised. I am the only one that did not take that step. All 4 of us girls fell away. All from mistakes made. They threw us all out. Our mother is only allowed to speak to the one daughter that was never baptised. Me. :) Trust me, my sisters don't envy me, because she uses the time we talk to preech. But I, unlike my sisters, know better than to fall into the 'truth' traps. I know it isn't the 'truth'. I only wish I could convince my mother. :( In parting, I offer one bit of advice. Don't take that final step. It's not worth it. Especially since the end won't be coming any time soon.

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"The GOD Delusion" by Richard Dawkins

by Amnesty Vendor in

i just got it for reading during upcoming travels.

any comments?

(i'm sure that this is not the first thread on this topic)

pandora

I love this book!! I'm in the middle of it now. Awesome! I think I will have to get "Letter to a Christian Nation" also, though. Wouldn't want to miss that one either.

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Greys Anatomy

by Woodsman in

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friends

anybody see greys anatomy tonight?

there was two amish girls on it.

one was shunned , the other wasn't because she wasn't baptized.

pandora

That episode brought back so many memories. I never got baptised, but all of my sisters did. We all fell away. It broke my sister's hearts that mom would talk to me and not them. Sadly, one of them got blackmailed back in. The other two are still going strong w/o the 'truf'. And I'm an athiest now. No chance of ME going back. :) I have found that I believe just as strongly as my mother does. Just the opposite of her. That does not add up to calm conversations about how I'm sinning. hehe

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Matt 24:14 fulfilled..anyone called bethel to confirm?

by candidlynuts in

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has anyone called bethel to confirm that this is an official proclamation?.

a few 1000 phone calls might get some attention... probably cause warning talks on getting your information thru emails instead of publications ... i know some of you here do call bethel on occasion..just wondering if anyone has called to ask about this latest stuff..

pandora

Hey everyone. It's been a long time since I've been here. Just living life, ya know. Until my mother told me that she needed to talk to me about something important, but she didn't want to fight. Well, after I talked to my JW sister to find out what was going on, I came here. Seems this little rumor has made its way into the midwest (Missouri). And now my mother is freaking out and trying to save her BABY. :) Gotta love the misguided, right? NOT really. Thru my searches here, I still haven't seen the ORIGINAL email. If someone can post that or point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it. AND can I then logically tell her that if she didn't read it in the Watchtower (this newest warning) that it is not authorized? I'm think that this is the road I'm gonna go down. Because, besides laughing thru the whole conversation, I'd like to have something concrete to say to her that might make her think. I appreciate any ideas any of you have. thanks

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Who here is still left from h20?

by GermanXJW in

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friends

i wonder how many here have already posted on the old h20 hourglass outpost-board?

it started to be a reform website and was one of the first sites i dared to register.

took some time for me to see the truth.

pandora

I registered and posted over at h2o. Didn't post often. As you can see I dont' post much here either. But I've been around for a while now. h2o was my first also.