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  Urgent - Any Atheists Want to be on BBC Radio 4?

  by cofty in

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  the bbc want to interview somebody who was part of a faith community but who became an athiest due to information available on the internet.. i am tempted but to be honest the profile doesn't really fit my story.

  this is a great opportunity to tell the story from the ex-jw perspective on mainstream national radio.. it is part of a four part series called "digital human" presented by guardian technology writer aleks krotoski so it will no doubt get press coverage there as well.. check out this link .

  or contact .... .

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  Flat_Accent

  I fit the bill. If it wasn't for the internet i'd never have left.

  Dont know how i'd explain my way out of it though...

  And my grandma listens to Radio 4 all the time.

  Perhaps i'll leave it in Cantleave's capable hands.
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  Holidays

  by Flat_Accent in

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  now it's been a good 8 months since i told my parents i no longer considered myself a jw.

  things have settled down to an extent but the hurt is still there - they think i'm going to die and as such are overly concerned for my safety.. in november i met a gal online and we've kept contact.

  a few months ago we decided i would come to visit her for a week.

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  Now it's been a good 8 months since I told my parents I no longer considered myself a JW. Things have settled down to an extent but the hurt is still there - they think I'm going to die and as such are overly concerned for my safety.

  In November I met a gal online and we've kept contact. A few months ago we decided I would come to visit her for a week. I went to my Mum first to let her know where I was going and when. She seemed fine with things at first but as the day has drawn closer she's been having a go. This is the first holiday I've been on since 1994 (not that I can remember any of it), and it's really dampening my mood! I finally told my dad, and I could tell he was forcing himself to stay calm. He didn't forget to tell me that I didn't really know this person, they could be a drug dealer, or a psycho, or some kind of criminal and going away on your own is very dangerous, I had a friend once that had his laptop stolen...

  I understand parents get worried about their kids going away, but this is hardly a unique experience. I remember in highschool, some of my friends left for Boston and others went to Austria. They were 15 at the time. I'm 20 this month, and I feel like im being kept on the leash a little here.

  Were your parents uptight about you going on holiday?

  Anyway, this shall be my last post for a while - I'm actually leaving today (on a tuesday of all days!! You'll miss the Theocratic Ministry School and everything!) and getting back sunday night (AND the Watchtower. Goodness me).

  Have a good week folks.
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  Thoughts: The 2012 Ascension Movement

  by metatron in

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  i haven't read anything here or anywhere else in regard to what i can only call the "ascension/2012" movement.

  in a nutshell, you have websites all over the place talking about this year as pivotal in world history.

  while the beliefs are not consistent from site to site, they often highlight certain ideas:.

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  You can not seriously buy into this.

  It's just another fear mongering scam that panders to paranoid people.

  Remember Planet X/Niburu/Elenin? (great video here)

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyMP-XXiLWA

  The world is not ending in 2012, and Queen Elizabeth is not a reptile. The only cover-ups here are by the people that create and spread panic of a nonexistent threat, veiling the BS through charismatic speakers and pseudo-scientific ramblings.
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  Confused in career choice :( Please help!!

  by will-be-apostate in

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  i am new here as a member who posts.

  i am a 18 years old boy, born in, baptized.

  i read regularly the posts here on jwn.

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  Flat_Accent

  sent you a PM will-be-apostate,

  check your envelope in the top right.

  It's more about your post, and less about the title.
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  What is your favorite quote?

  by Iamallcool in

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  'I am satisfied, and sufficiently occupied with the things which are, without tormenting or troubling myself about those which may indeed be, but of which I have no evidence.'
  -Thomas Jefferson
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  Questions From Thinkers

  by Perry in

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  how do you explain david's graphic portrayal of jesus' death by crucifixion (psalm 22) 1000 years before christ lived?.

  how do you account for the odds (1 in 10 to the 157th power) that even just 48 (of 300) old testament prophecies were fulfilled in jesus christ?.

  in what sense was jesus a "good man" if he was lying in his claim to be god?.

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  Fair enough BluesBrother.

  But if Perry was arguing for a flat earth, I doubt you'd be romanticizing the idea of discussion quite as much.

  Comments like 'If the Bible is wrong then why do people only mentioned in the Bible say it's true?' and 'how can nature create a brain?' are so tedious they're not even worth the webspace.
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  Questions From Thinkers

  by Perry in

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  how do you explain david's graphic portrayal of jesus' death by crucifixion (psalm 22) 1000 years before christ lived?.

  how do you account for the odds (1 in 10 to the 157th power) that even just 48 (of 300) old testament prophecies were fulfilled in jesus christ?.

  in what sense was jesus a "good man" if he was lying in his claim to be god?.

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  If there is no God, how do we explain human longings and desire for the transcendent?

  You're confusing not wanting to die with the existence of God. We are one of the few, if not the only species that is aware of our own mortality, the eventual heat-death of our planet and the destruction of the universe. Nobody likes these ideas, however that is where the evidence leads us. There is no evidence to suggest that "I'll see you all again in some theme park : one nice, one nasty."

  We have consciousness, and self-awareness, so it is obvious that we would ask ourselves these deep questions. And again, as nice as it would be to have some overall purpose in the universe, that does not constitute evidence FOR one. It is merely wishful thinking. Because I can think it or because I want it, does not mean it exists.

  Although you suggest some have a hunger for spiritual things, it is also true that some people do not. True, religion is pervasive in all peoples across the world, but from an evolutionary standpoint the origins of these faiths, and the reason people are suceptible to them, become quite easily understood.

  As for your 'where are the atheist philosophers' argument, I'd say the field has shifted from philosophy and onto science. We don't just muse over the question of god's existence anymore - science has examined and tested and refined, and the space for God in the grand scheme of things is ever shrinking. 97% of the National Academy of Sciences is Atheist, that should speak volumes.

  This video is more relevant to your OP.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEIGWESngdY

  This one's pretty funny too.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKk
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  Questions From Thinkers

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
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  how do you explain david's graphic portrayal of jesus' death by crucifixion (psalm 22) 1000 years before christ lived?.

  how do you account for the odds (1 in 10 to the 157th power) that even just 48 (of 300) old testament prophecies were fulfilled in jesus christ?.

  in what sense was jesus a "good man" if he was lying in his claim to be god?.

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  Flat_Accent

  My sarcasm-meter isnt working today, so i'll have to ask:

  Are you being serious?
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  questions that defy JW logic No bible needed just a working brain

  by thecrushed in

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  even before awakening from the mind control my mind would plague me with doctrine defying logic.

  i'd like to share some of my self explanatory questions here.

  every time i'd ask jw's these questions they would give me bs answers like we will have to wait on jehovah to tell us in the new system or some other lamo thinking stopper.

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  No problem. thecrushed.

  My yoke is scrambled, but my mayo is light.
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  questions that defy JW logic No bible needed just a working brain

  by thecrushed in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  even before awakening from the mind control my mind would plague me with doctrine defying logic.

  i'd like to share some of my self explanatory questions here.

  every time i'd ask jw's these questions they would give me bs answers like we will have to wait on jehovah to tell us in the new system or some other lamo thinking stopper.

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  Oh crap..

  *puts on suit and tie*

  I, uh, chose not to answer yours, Chariklo, because your questions are clearly from the mind of a diseased apostate, and you just want to be critical of Gods wonderful organization.

  Yes. That'll do.