Posts by Sheep2slaughter

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....and a new wrinkle

by outsmartthesystem in

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so i was giving my daughter a hug at bed time last night.

she stands up at the foot of her bed and wraps her arms around my neck.

she then asks why i don't serve jehovah anymore.

Try not to think to much of it. Kids can come up with this stuff "on their own". If they go to meetings they are coached at meeting. Not necessarily by family or friends but from the stage. My kids say the same kinda crap and I am possitive with my kids no one is coaching them. It's just cuz they are "trained" so well. From infancy. I personally think it will fade with time. Just keep being a good dad like I'm sure you are(tucking your daughter in at night is evidence of this) and it will be ok.

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Code Words for Fade Mode?

by SophieG in

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there has got to be some kind of code word system to find out if someone you know is in "fade mode"!

lol!!!

what do you do when you suspect a jw is on the way out?...you may notice that they don't talk about meetings or service on social media...they don't even list jw as their religion.

Sheep2slaughter

Man why can't I embed video? Do you think it's cuz I'm posting from an iPad? Stinking dang it.

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Code Words for Fade Mode?

by SophieG in

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friends

there has got to be some kind of code word system to find out if someone you know is in "fade mode"!

lol!!!

what do you do when you suspect a jw is on the way out?...you may notice that they don't talk about meetings or service on social media...they don't even list jw as their religion.

Sheep2slaughter

Almost anything we try to do to identify ourselves to other faders or those that are mentally runs the risk of being used for nefarious purposes by those wishing to 'keep the congregation clean'. So with that in mind any signal has to be something that can easily be dismissed as a misunderstanding or mistake if picked up on by the wrong person. Maybe something like this:

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When was the last time you had someone appointed in your cong?

by Splash in

for my cong, apart from those moving in, we last had an elder appointed 16 years ago.. we last had some ms's appointed about 3 years ago.. our boe are getting old, 3 in their 80's, 1 in his 70's and three in their 60's.. they all work hard, but when their time comes, they deteriorate quickly.. splash.

Sheep2slaughter

We had 2 MS appointments last CO visit. Both brothers in their late 20s. Both born in but not baptized until a few years ago. Good kids even tho extremely misguided.

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"Do J W's HAve Women Ministers? Sept 1st Watchtower 2012

by BluesBrother in

the sept 1st 2012 watchtower carries the article "our readers ask - do jehovah's witnesses have women ministers?".

the first words of the article provide a straight answer "yes, worldwide jehovah's witnesses have several million women ministers"however, the aricle goes on to explain their limitations in that they are not permitted to teach the congregation, "the audience of their ministry is different" .

they also do not preside or have oversight.. that opening sentence is a masterpiece of fallacious reasoning, using the well established method of equivocation ie.

Sheep2slaughter

@Kurtbethel: One who uses language so deceptively CANNOT be trusted. Watchtower does that stuff all the time. Look at how they lied to Bulgeria with their clever verbal acrobatics...liars.

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Circuit Accounts Servants Confesses how the SCAM WORKS!!

by JT in

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friends

yes, i too have wondered how an assembly that is held in a fully paid for assembly hall, with no food service, could possibly have $10,000 in expenses.

i suppose the bethel speakers have transportation expenses - maybe $1000 or so.

as for rent on the assembly hall, well you have already paid for it once, why pay again?

Sheep2slaughter

I haven't donated in probably 4 years. Not for publications, meetings, assembly hall(currently under construction locally), conventions....none of that. Only donations I have made are to help pay for insurance and maintenance on a handicapped brothers van. Watchtower doesnt get any of our money.

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Did You Have A Lot Of Meetings With The Elders?

by minimus in

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we're you always in the back room with the elders?.

Sheep2slaughter

Yeah me personally...lots of meetings. I am in the process of getting my "privileges" back. They are wise to me not drinking the Kool-Aid anymore so I have been having more meetings than most would like. Going on 4 in the last 7 weeks since I have one coming up! Lol!!!

Suckas!!!!!!

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What Do you think? Is Natalie Plummer an Idiot? Woman Arrested For Warning Drivers Of Speed Trap

by Scott77 in

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http://autos.aol.com/article/woman-arrested-for-warning-drivers-of-speed-trap-with-makeshift/?ncid=txtlnkusauto00000020.

Sheep2slaughter

Like so many said; law I forcemeat needs to be kept I in check. Speed traps are often a cash grab. She's a hero in my book.

Personal experience: I had a buddy that had a speeding problem. Finally lost his license. Straw that broke the camels back was him speeding and not recognizing he was in a school zone. I had no compassion for him. He was a danger. So it's not that I'm anti law enforcement, just the bullshit stuff like this sounds like.

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I left the Witnesses over 10 years ago, but finally went back

by JakeMarley in

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the entire time i was gone it was nagging at me.

i hadn't been previously baptized, so leaving wasn't that big a deal.

now i'm back in the swing of it, going to all meetings and field service.

Sheep2slaughter

Gotta agree with James Woods.....trolling. We need to let this thread die so this troll stops giggling about how he/she 'manipulated the apostates.'

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If you are reading this title, everything you know needs to be questioned

by King Solomon in

the title of this thread is like one of those bumper stickers, "if you can read this, you are too close".

it's true: if you are reading this, you accepted certain assumptions in the past, or need to do so.. the jws deliver a well-honed message that is targeted to individuals who's prior experiences and psyche makes them pre-disposed to accept their version of reality; attending meetings is really just a way for individuals to correct their thinking so as to be more in accord with the beliefs of the group.

btw, the process of aligning one's thinking to a group is not inherent evil, eg doctors attend continuing education courses so they can stay abreast with their colleagues in new findings of research, thus enabling them to deliver the best possible care to their patients, not practicing using turn-of-the-century ideas (blood-sucking leeches, etc).. however, when it comes to religion and faith, accepting assumptions into one's world view without critically-analysis leads one to a conclusion that may be flawed.

Sheep2slaughter

@King Solomon

Nah I don't have the tendency to cave to social pressure in most regards. I refuse to be disfellowshipped again so I have to front but I think that's somewhat different.

My wife is chronicly ill and when I was reaching out I had people hint/suggest the course I outlined. My father in law in particular. His wife suffers from many ills and he leaves her to deal with it by herself constantly. She just needs to feel loved and worthwhile. But no....This past weekend she was in so much pain and isn't allowed pain meds at this time until the source is diagnosed. He works about 70 hrs a week and Saturday's are his only time he can go in field service. So his words to me over a beer Friday were that the brothers need to see him out and she will be ok. She is not ok. She is not needy or clingy or whatever. It would just be a basic human decency and when we go visit her while they are off JWing she is so appreciative and relieved. So I was kinda venting against him.