Posts by Kingpawn

The idea that a Christian is permitted to shoot, but not to kill, strikes me as ludicrous. Who are you, the Lone Ranger or Annie Oakley? And ipso facto, does this make using a handgun or rifle permissible, and dropping an atomic bomb immoral?

And it's OK to do it w/o animosity?? Yeah, I can just see someone saying, "I don't mean to offend you while I'm disemboweling you old man, and there's nothing personal in all this, ya know? Are we cool on that?" (Weak nod from enemy.) "Great! Thanks."

Certainly not the attitude we took on Day One of Iraq War II when we tried to blast Saddam Hussein into thimble-sized pieces.

Of course self-defense is instinctive. Long before there were evil people there were predatory animals.

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Fluff question for the Aussies

by Kingpawn in

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my employer imports a lot of beef from australia and new zealand.

they have to conform to as (australian standard) 3724.. what is that?.

is it something to do with the box, the meat, or what?

Kingpawn

It's funny you mention that. I heard recently about a past incident where a whole truckload of meat was rejected because it was kangaroo meat.

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Fluff question for the Aussies

by Kingpawn in

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my employer imports a lot of beef from australia and new zealand.

they have to conform to as (australian standard) 3724.. what is that?.

is it something to do with the box, the meat, or what?

Kingpawn

My employer imports a lot of beef from Australia and New Zealand. They have to conform to AS (Australian Standard) 3724.

What is that?

Is it something to do with the box, the meat, or what? I haven't had a good dose of legalese lately and maybe someone can give me a hit of obfuscatory governmental verbiage.

This should set a record as one of the quickest-dieing threads on the board, but I've seen this for years on the boxes and I'm...kinda starting to...look for it again...and again...and....

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Easy, sleazy bimbos

by YoursChelbie in

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they're in the work place, at social gatherings.

they are just about everywhere that men are--- including the internet.

they hit on single men, married men, old and young.

Kingpawn

The question I have is: What ultimately prevents a "taken" man from giving in to a sleazy woman's advances?

Several things. First, he may already have seen her in action and know what fate lies in store for him when she's done with him. Second, the knowledge that "if she did it to her last "conquest" (cheated on him while saying he was the only one for her, raked him over the coals financially, destroyed his marriage/relationship with someone else/etc.) she'll do it to me" will scare him off. Third, she may be too brazen about it.

Incidentally, while the pop star Pink might be labelled as sleazy because she got Britney Spears P.O.'ed when she said she wouldn't mind sleeping with Spears' then-bf Justin Timberlake, you'd also have to include actress Doris Day, who in an autobiography said if she found what she thought was the right guy for her, his marital status wouldn't matter (IIRC)--have to find the book). A pretty broad brush to paint people with.

For example, is it possible for a man already in a relationship, to turn down an attractive fellow employee who makes passes at him and lavishes attention on him?

Of course it's possible. Likely? Depends on the people involved (is he shy and insecure? Maybe this is very flattering to him. A "himbo?" He may think it's his due from life), the situation (is she drunk at the office party and boozily throwing herself at him or subtly working her way into his life?), the reason (appealing to his lust, his chivalric impulses, his willingness to help someone in trouble, and so on), the culture (of the workplace, social gathering, church, camping trip with several couples), etc. Some people are as steadfast as a mountain in situations like this, while others would make cooked spaghetti look like Superman in terms of resistance.

Can a man's sense of commitment be enough to prevent him from being a two-timer?

Sure, BUT besides her actions, many guys have to deal with the ridicule of their male buddies, who are jealous over his refusal to betray a trust his wife/SO has in him because they would trash it in a heartbeat, given the chance, which they aren't getting because she's ignoring them (for now, anyway).

Does the whole matter depend on the extent of his love and devotion to his significant other?

Not that alone. But you're right that it does come down to values (doesn't everything in life, if you stop and think about it?). Choices. What means more to the guy--this woman or (insert any other alternative here)? The competing factor might be money, self-respect, religious devotion, a promotion, an inheritance, etc.

Another thing that would help him in his struggle: other women who'd let him know he's respected for resisting and not seen as a wussy by them. Especially if he's the type of guy who has trouble relating to women in social/romantic settings, who wants to talk with them but may be painfully shy.

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Have You Recieved Any Benefit From This Web Site???

by minimus in

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are you happier since you've found this place?

if jwd were gone tomorrow, would you just look for another site to get involved with?

my opinion of this board is that it is one of the best boards to learn current information from.

Kingpawn

Definitely.

I learned far more about the Society than I would have found anywhere else. And freeminds.org first led me here. As Aztec said, there are stories here that really make your blood boil, wondering how a group claiming to be so loving can say and do the things they do. Any temptations I might have had for even thinking about going back have long since been banished.

OTOH the site doesn't seem as utilitarian as it once was. In changing over, its like it's harder to do the same things (like editing a post) than it was before.

Just my $.016752 (the weakened American dollar, y'know)

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Christians force Wal-mart to ban British 'lad mags'

by ignored_one in

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=403863

eugh.

i hate the idea of someone decided what i can and can't read.

Kingpawn

But refusing on conscience grounds to sell a certain product that is readily available elsewhere is not imposing anything on anyone.

I have to agree with Neonmadman's thoughts. OK, Wal-Mart doesn't want to sell certain mags. And yes they are being inconsistent in continuing to sell Cosmopolitan. (IMO.)

So if you want the mags, besides going elsewhere for them, why not subscribe directly?

I'm thinking of calling the local Wal-Mart and asking for their reasoning about magazines and guns. After all, if killing is Christian why did Paul forbid it (2 Cor. 10:3)?

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How My Date Went

by Robdar in

i went on my date this afternoon.

he is a nice guy.

looks like clint eastwood.

Kingpawn

Robyn,

I'm trying this again since every time I try and reply the board posts it automatically before I'm ready.

First, pat yourself on the back that you went out with "Clint" and are going out again with another guy. I've heard women who were terrified about the possibility of dating.

Second, sure this guy might be insecure and hasn't dated in a year (and why not, I wonder?), but still, that much alcohol is too much. If he sees himself as the classic "nerd" and you're seen by him as akin to the Prom Queen that he never, in his wildest fantasies, dreamed he'd be going out with, then I can see it on his part to a degree. In the same spot this would be my state of mind if I had reacted this way. But if he always drinks like that...huh uh. Does he anesthetize his lonliness that way, or use it to cope with life?

The girlfriend remark, to me, was too fast, too presumptous, and put you on the spot. Might also signal this guy gets overboard emotionally quickly. I remember dating a girl in high school that told me in a note she loved me (after the first date) and we had a fight on the second. One date isn't enough. You've been out of the scene for a long time and naturally it'll be a while before you know what type of guy you'll be comfortable with.

Now, I have to admit being a tad bit irritated with those who say not to expect an intellectual discussion on the first date. I'm guessing the two of you talked for some time before going out. I'd think he could have sized you up as brainy, up on current events, or a Barbie doll before then. (The way you write posts shows you're no dummy.) And reacted accordingly. Especially if his job requires him to make judgments about people, like a lawyer, salesperson, etc. What's hard about discussing the pros and cons of homeland security, was Michael Moore OK or out of line dissing the Prez during the Oscars, his views on current events, or whatever? Kinda skim the surface, not do a Crossfire-type debate.

Maybe you could make yourself a list of the qualities you'd require, like, accept, or avoid, and rate guys like that. It sounds cold-blooded to some but is it romantic to take a chance on a guy who can't seem to (for examples) relate well to people, hold a job for long, or (insert favorite peeve here)?

As far as a kiss: I'd say no, on date one. Unless you felt comfortable with it. But, you agreed to go out with him; if he abuses the privilege, he runs the risk of losing your company. You're in charge.

Hope this helps.

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