Posts by hijosdelawatch

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Finally decided to introduce myself here

by cookiemaster in

hey guys !

i've stopped believing the watchtower crap a few years ago.

i achieved this on my own, despite being raised as one.

hijosdelawatch

Welcome! I'm exactly in the same situation.

Enjoy the freedom of this forum. How different from the spirit of the Borg!

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this week's wt study

by thedog1 in

i conducted the wt study tonight on higher education.

i wondered what the reaction of the bros and sis would be.

there was no deviation from the idea that a university education is not a good idea.

hijosdelawatch

quellycatface said...

I know a pioneer couple who are both on disability allowance and live off the state 100%. They are better off like that than actually working. It's a joke. Self righteousness shoved right down your throat.

Cherish your parents who are supportive of you and carry on with your studies.

We are here for you.

Thanks for your words, quellycatface.

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DEC 2013 WT Article - Slave for Jehovah - warning: ranting ahead

by ohnightdivine in

jw
friends

this morning's wt study almost made me vomit, stand up, pick up my bag and rush to the door.. of course it never happened.

instead, i was able to make some nice drawings on my tablet and notepad.. if you replace the name jehovah with watchtower, or the governing 8 men, it would really make sense.. what's up with all that nonstop guilt-mongering about education and having a decent job?!.

most people look down on the uneducated, and i remember, when i didn't have a job, nobody cared!.

hijosdelawatch

In fact, the picture in pages 14 and 15 can be the life of anyone working. Most of people in the 21st centry have to work with computers. Is it bad to show slides in Power Point?

I like the picture about the WT way of life. The way they compare it with a normal life is clever. They are expressing the reality: working for the borg is just like working for a company. Actually, the WT IS a company. There's nothing spiritual or mystical on it. The Borg's life is empty, even more than dedicating exclusively for a business.

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this week's wt study

by thedog1 in

i conducted the wt study tonight on higher education.

i wondered what the reaction of the bros and sis would be.

there was no deviation from the idea that a university education is not a good idea.

hijosdelawatch

As I stopped pioneering some years ago in a needed congregation and I went into college to have a degree in a very worldly field with all its maths and science, I expected to have a very uncomfortable meeting. I'm living with my parents, thanks to them I can study.

What I didn't expect was the rudeness and loneliness, even physical, I felt. I was seated there in the KH and next to me there was an elder sitting. When he saw I was there he left two seats free between us! I didn't know if I was becoming paranoid or it was related with me. What happened next was going to answer me this question.

Once the WT study started, it was all directed to me. An Elder gave a comment and he said about the picture in pages 14,15: "I can only comment about the picture above, that's what I lived. Maybe, another brother could comment the second one, one who has disobeyed the organisation's advise". Both the WT conductor and the elder smiled.

Another elder insisted: "It's not compatible being a Jehovah's Witness and pursuing a worldly career, even going to University". A sister whose daughter wants to go to college in 2 years tried to do a moderate comment. Immediately, the WT conductor said it was a proof of a brother's love for Jehovah's Organisation.

Meanwhile, in my mind a change was happening. It's the first time I started thinking of it as a CULT. I cannot see it anymore as a mere religion with some false teachings.

After the meeting, some elders wanted to speak with me. 'How was the meeting?', they asked me. 'Well, it was interesting, of course', I replied. What other thing could I say? They insisted to speak about this issue, they asked me why I'm not going to preach more even insisted a couple of times, not directly of course, it was not possible to me to become a MS if I follow this path. One of them was so impolite. He told me he feels so sad when he sees a brother going to university because it's a insult to those brothers and sisters who have sacrificed their lifes to Jehovah, giving to his Organisation all their time and money. Of course, it was his case. He didn't go to college nor learn a trade. Now, he's unemployed and it seems like he wants others to be like him.

I know while living at home with my family I have to go to meetings, preaching some hours and act as if I were a "normal" JW. But last night I felt so alone. I'm in the middle of nowhere. I don't believe in them anymore but I can't left the so called truth yet. How bad I feel!

It's a cult. What I saw in their eyes was hate, and blind obedience to human leaders. They suppress their opinions and the realitiy they see and just follow what the Governing body commands. I don't recognise there a loving God.

Sorry for this long post. I just needed to express myself.

PS: Sorry also for my English. It's not my mother tongue.

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Could we quantify how many posters their are from different nations ? Would you like to know ?

by smiddy in

maybe its just me , i`m just curious as to how many people on this site are from australia as i am .

how many from germany , italy , zambia , etc.

etc.. do two or three "countries " seem to dominate the threads ?

hijosdelawatch

From Spain!

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The Bible VS the Koran

by JH in

here is an interesting link that compares the bible's teachings versus the koran's teachings.

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~dbates/koran0.htm.

is there a way to know for sure which out of the two books is more credible?

hijosdelawatch

I've been preaching for a long time to Muslims and you know what?

The first thing you have to do if you want a believer in a non-Christian religion become a Christian is to show him his religion is false. That's difficult of course, but possible for Hinduism or a non-Abrahamic religion in general.

But if you convince a Muslim his sacred book is not inspired, why then he should believe in the Bible, another book that claimed is inspired too?

In fact, they base their connection to Judaism-Christian in the verse in John where Jesus says the Helper would come after him. Christians say it's the Holy Spirit and they say it's Mohammed. Truth be told, even when I was a believer in the JW religion, I could see there were no real proofs to say one thing or the other.

As it happends with a lot of ex-JWs, when someone start questioning Islam it is likely that he becomes agnostic or atheist.

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Beards....Do What Your Told! The WT Owns You, You Disobedient, Spiritually Immature, Publisher!

by allyouneedislove in

was talking to an elder about beards.

he said that at bethel, only black and hispanic brothers can have mustaches (any actual facts supporting this decision?).

he mentioned that we don't want to stumble anyone so that they won't hear our message.

hijosdelawatch

Here in Spain they used to say from platform: "Can you see any politician or Prime Minister wearing a beard? We have to give honor to our message".

Now both the PM and the Leader of the Opposition both wear a beard!!

But some elders are so stupid (or misinformed, don't know) that they still say the same!

Reasons are not important. "You, JW, just have to obey! Is it so difficult?" they may think.

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Foreign language groups

by dissonance_resolved in

foreign language groups are the fastest growing groups of jws in the western world.

the best and brightest jws are drawn to them for the privileges, the challenge, the feeling of being special.

but in my experience, being in one of these groups has a side effect.

hijosdelawatch

I have to admit that I moved to a foreign language group years ago because I was bored of the same sh*t. Life was tedious and boring in my average local congo. Plus, I could practice the language. Then, I moved again to another foreign group to learn a new language. Most of my young JW friends did the same.

That's why I guess that there are few real Jehovah's witnesses believers in heart, especially young people. Lots of young people are living in a performance, a world of hypocrisy and double life. They need stimulus to stay in Watchtowerland. Of course, there are real believers but they're a minority.

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The experience that changed my life

by hijosdelawatch in

i have been lurking for a long time here and i think i'm prepared to speak about this experience openly.. .

i was born in a jw family and i grew up as the average jehovah's witness does.

even being very young, i helped with the territories and other work in the congregation.

hijosdelawatch

problemaddict:

Does your mother know she got blood? Does your father know?

My father does know. My mother too. But they never speak about it. They haven't told the elders but the elders have never asked.

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The experience that changed my life

by hijosdelawatch in

i have been lurking for a long time here and i think i'm prepared to speak about this experience openly.. .

i was born in a jw family and i grew up as the average jehovah's witness does.

even being very young, i helped with the territories and other work in the congregation.

hijosdelawatch

Londo11:

Welcome, hijosdelawatch!

Have you read In Search of Christian Freedom? This has some good information on whether or not "abstain from blood" means "no blood transfusions".

I read "Crisis of conscience" later. I'm still an active JW because of family but planing to fade. Fortunately, my family has allowed me to go to college and I'm now on it. I stoped pioneering a couple of years ago when I found out TTATT.