problemaddict:
Does your mother know she got blood? Does your father know?
My father does know. My mother too. But they never speak about it. They haven't told the elders but the elders have never asked.
i have been lurking for a long time here and i think i'm prepared to speak about this experience openly.. .
i was born in a jw family and i grew up as the average jehovah's witness does.
even being very young, i helped with the territories and other work in the congregation.
problemaddict:
Does your mother know she got blood? Does your father know?
My father does know. My mother too. But they never speak about it. They haven't told the elders but the elders have never asked.
i have been lurking for a long time here and i think i'm prepared to speak about this experience openly.. .
i was born in a jw family and i grew up as the average jehovah's witness does.
even being very young, i helped with the territories and other work in the congregation.
Londo11:
Welcome, hijosdelawatch!
Have you read In Search of Christian Freedom? This has some good information on whether or not "abstain from blood" means "no blood transfusions".
I read "Crisis of conscience" later. I'm still an active JW because of family but planing to fade. Fortunately, my family has allowed me to go to college and I'm now on it. I stoped pioneering a couple of years ago when I found out TTATT.
i have been lurking for a long time here and i think i'm prepared to speak about this experience openly.. .
i was born in a jw family and i grew up as the average jehovah's witness does.
even being very young, i helped with the territories and other work in the congregation.
I have been lurking for a long time here and I think I'm prepared to speak about this experience openly.
I was born in a JW family and I grew up as the average Jehovah's Witness does. Even being very young, I helped with the territories and other work in the congregation. I was baptized very young influenced by my family and my own conviction.
But when I was 17 something happened. My mother was ill for a long time and she was suddenly hospitalized. She needed a blood transfusion and my father was out of town. The elders contacted me. They told me I had to be bold. As she was unconscious, the elders wanted me to bring the 'no-blood card' to the doctor. Just imagine that situation for a 17 years-old boy. I had to speak with the doctor with the company of an elder. "My mother can't get blood", I said. "Well", responded the doctor, "it's the only available solution. If we cannot use it, I can't ensure what will happend".
Finally, I went home that day and I searched for the card. I didn't know where it was. I can't tell for sure if I wanted to find it or not but finally I got that card. I looked it and I see something. The card wasn't signed! The elders called me and I explained what happended. Then, the COBOE (the President in those times) told me: 'That's not a problem. Just copy your mother's signature.'. 'Ok, let's see', I answered.
Rapidly, I visited the doctor. I showed him that piece of paper and told him: "just do what is right". The doctors didn't allow the brothers to visit her for 2 days as she was very critical. When the elders asked me, I said: 'I did what I think was the right thing to do'.
My mother recovered and no one never asked about what happened. She has never asked me about it. The elders either.
I never recovered from what I had lived. I discovered I couldn't believe in the blood doctrine. Some time later I was appointed a MS. I tried to convinced myself it had not happened. That I didn't do nothing but it was all a problem with that card. But I never overcame that. I was not the same and it was only a matter of time that I could open my eyes definitely.
we had our circuit assembly last weekend and this was one of the needs of the circuit.
one of the main points was mid week meeting attendance.
apparently the attendance is very low.
At least where I live, that's the case. Brothers are complaining about the midweek meeting being so boring.
I saw the attendance records in my congregation and when we had 3 meetings a week, the School and the Service Meeting had an average of:
2007 96%
2008 93%
Those were good numbers, although declining but look at what happened after the introduction of the new midweek meeting arrangement:
2009 87%
2010 83%
2011 76%
These are % of publishers. In fact, since we had a decreasing in the number of publishers (almost 15 moved away) the numbers look very bad. The last time we had the CO visit it was his main pont during the visit.
some avatars and screen names are pretty self explanatory, but some...i can't figure out.
i just wanted to know why you chose your particular screen name and/or avatar.
mine is easy enough.
My name means "Sons of the Watchtower" in Spanish, as JWs are really worshipping the Organization itself, not God or Jesus.
doesn't it?.
this is not unexpected, unless your part of the presidents team of geniuses.. .
From an European perspective, America seems too much 'idealistic'.
First, Bush trying to impose Democracy to countries when that system of government hadn't worked never before. Obviously, it didn't work because adoption of democracy should be the fruit of an internal evolution. If it is imposed, it won't work out. Believe me, we had the same experience here in Spain with Napoleonic invasion who brought liberal ideas to this country and as a reaction the people chose to defend the old authocratic King. Only when this country was prepared internally to make that change, it happened.
And then, Obama supporting the overthrow of the so-called tyrants like Mubarak, Ben Ali and Gaddafi who were a wall against the rise of radical islamism. What is better those soft dictators or a islamist regime?
does anyone know for a fact whether the wts released any foreign language editions of either kit 1 or 2?.
such as french or german or spanish?.
Do you mean the Kingdom Interlinear Translation, don't you?
At least in Spanish there's no a translation. Anyway, I think that after all those talks about learning Hebrew or Greek could be an offence against the GB, there will be no new releases.
Maybe they're thinking about a different kind of new material: "simplified" stuff.
i seem to remember somebody saying that since the 90's the number of elders has declined from 90000 to 60000. does anybody have any hard figures regarding this?.
the organization is desperate for "qualified" men.
but their standards are much too high, especially the monthly field service hour requirements tagged on to endless meetings and congregational busywork.
I used to serve in a congregation with plenty of males in their 20s and 30s. Some of them were going to all the meeting, had good FS participation, taking part in meetings and even applying for auxiliary pioneering some months every year.
Well, no one of them were appointed even as MS.
In some congregations, only elder's son became MS. These brothers were older than me and they used to call all the MS & Elders as "The Caste" as you could only become MS if you were part of an elder's family. Only exceptions were made with elders coming from other congregations.
As a result of that nepotism, many of the brothers gave up and some even became inactive.
This was 10 years ago. Now, I've just heard elders from that place are worried about having no one as a potential candidate for being MS.
Cedars, another point:
Look at your list of lands of your last post. Many of them are "dependencies", "autonomous regions" and so. So, they're not really countries as CIA book or Catholic Church are speaking about.
For example, here in Spain in the 80s, Canary Islands appeared separated from Spain. So, WT could claim that they were present in 2 lands, but really is only 1 country as Canary Islands was (and is) just another region of Spain.
In fact, they're doing the same at present with Madeiras that is a region of Portugal.
It seems chovinist. They only use that to impress publishers and increase the number of "lands".
Don't forget this growth in poor countries is at the heart of the WT's financial problems.
Increasing costs + less contributions in 1st World = Problems.
That's why they're closing branches and reducing their operations (decreasing in WT and Awake pages, etc.).
Plus, in a effort to adapt to this new members in poor countries, they are losing members from rich ones. Just see the WT study articles. A decades ago, they were complex. Now, these articles are "easier" and their arguments are becoming more and more "simplified". In that way, they're losing capacity to attract people in places like Europe, the US and Japan.