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  WT / JW Doctrine ,Satan cast out of Heaven in 1914 ? He has always had access to the earth ? Since Eve .

  by smiddy3 in

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  this doctrine / belief that jehovah`s witnesses have , surely raises a few questions that they do not address.. 1.this spirit being challenged god by questioning his authority and offering eve an alternative making himself satan.. and this took place on earth ,the garden of eden.

  so he who became satan had access to the earth.. 2. all throughout the old testament , the hebrew scriptures do we find examples of satan interfering with gods plan of things either by himself or his followers .. 3.their are just too many examples to list individually ,however a few key ones would be , the nephilim , job when god in heaven asks him where he has been , and his reply , from roving about on the earth .

  , etc.etc.. 4.and of course in the new testament , where jesus is taken up into a mountain to be tempted by satan for fourty days ?.

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  And why exactly does God needs to acquiesce to Satan's challenge, especially if this means it will cause suffering and despair? This is what JWs teach... "Oh Satan challenged Jehovah about the ability for humans to live their lives without God"... so what?

  If you have a kid and I go up to you and I challenge you that your kid cannot be fed, clothed and taken care of without your help, will you then throw your kid on the street and tell him "Sorry son, someone challenged me about your ability to live without me. Have a nice life. See ya, and prove me right".

  The whole thing is incredibly stupid.
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  Do You Believe The News Media Is Trustworthy?

  by minimus in

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  recently a friend and i were having a conversation about the news media.

  he is a democrat but he’s also a very reasonable person.

  i’ve known him for many years.

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  Anyone who believes the news from the major outlets can be trusted is seriously misguided (with all due respect).

  This is typical hyperbole that is not supported by factual evidence.

  If this is true, then out of the hundreds of news pieces found in the New York Times, for example in the last week, it should easy for you tell us 3 FACTS reported by the NYT that are factually incorrect.

  Waiting...

  
  
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  How did Adam and Eve survive when kicked out of the Garden of Eden?

  by I believe in overlapping in

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  2. beliefs

  it’s funny how a simple question like this is something that the dubs never even consider.

  my dad asked this question to a couple of witnesses and they wondered for a minute and said; .

  “i never thought about it, i’ll have to ask the elders”.

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  The sun is about 93 million miles away from Earth If ... If Earth were closer to the sun, however, the oceans would boil away. and if farther we would not be able to live on earth

  And if that had happened, we wouldnt be here. That's the whole point.
  Take a dining table, place a heat lamp at each end of the table. Then take handful of chocolate candy and throw it in the air, and they scatter around the table. One piece falls exactly in the center of the table, far enough from each lamp that it does not melt, the rest melt. That same silly argument could be made, that someone must have specifically placed that piece of candy in the exact position so that it woudn't melt.
  Nobody placed the earth here. It just happened to be the planet that developed in the right region of the solar system and this facilitated the right conditions for life. It is especially helpful to consider the gzillions of planets that are all over the universe and that serve no purpose other than existing,
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  Do You Believe The News Media Is Trustworthy?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  recently a friend and i were having a conversation about the news media.

  he is a democrat but he’s also a very reasonable person.

  i’ve known him for many years.

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  There is a big difference between reporting news from a specific angle or with a bias, and completing fabricating facts.

  When CNN or Fox News or the New York times, report on something, it can be trusted that the FACTS reported are probably true. They just report on things from a specific angle.

  So if CNN for example, has 10 news items about Trump and 5 are negative, they will emphasize those, and perhaps only mention the positive ones in passing. FoxNews would probably do the opposite.

  So this is not about calling Fake News to any news that is critical of you, like our buffoon-in-chief does. It's about recognizing that actual truthful facts can be reported with different biases and perspectives.
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  More fear-mongering in Nov. 2019 WT

  by neat blue dog in

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  first of all, there's a new imaginary picture of jws during the great tribulation:.

  then there's a picture of a jw family refusing to listen to "apostate lies" via pre-programed, self imposed information control:.

  the description says:.

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  JW's hid in a back room before the storm troopers broke in. Then they huddled in a basement. Others stood around in a field waiting for God. Now they are in the attic. Still trying to find the perfect place to hide? Soon it will be in a bathroom at the courthouse when they get hauled in for hiding predators.

  And the bigger question is... why is there a need to hide at all? They have been teaching that eventually after destroying all other religions, the authorities will come for them, at which point Jellohoba will step in a destroy them all. So why hide? If they all just continue living normal, once the authorities come for them, Jellohoba will follow through with his plan.
  
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  Do You Think Trump Bares Any Responsibility For The Mass Shootings Occuring?

  by minimus in

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  when any mass shooting happens is it the president’s fault?

  i’m talking over the last few decades..

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  nonsense
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  Do You Think Trump Bares Any Responsibility For The Mass Shootings Occuring?

  by minimus in

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  when any mass shooting happens is it the president’s fault?

  i’m talking over the last few decades..

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  There is no conflict in those statements. The issue is the way things are done. The majority of Americans were outraged by the handling of the situation.

  No, you are talking about something different. You are referring to what happens to illegal aliens after they are captured and how they are held. That is a completely different issue, though that needs to be reviewed as well.

  I'm referring to the position that the country should have on illegal immigration. Many democrats on the extreme left really are saying that we should just decriminalize illegal immigration. Moreover, when we had the "caravan" of illegal immigrants, again those same people were complaining about the position of this administration of not allowing them in without due process. Also constant cries about the concept of arresting and deporting of illegal aliens. Idiotic plans of giving them free education and free healthcare.

  However, not a single one of those people have said how they would handle it themselves if they were in charge. Would they arrest illegal aliens? If yes, where would they detain them? Should the children be detained with the parents? If not, where should you house them? Should the illegal aliens have due process and see a judge? if the judge determines they should be deported, would you deport them?

  Seems like a lot of complaining, and not enough solutions.

  
  
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  Do You Think Trump Bares Any Responsibility For The Mass Shootings Occuring?

  by minimus in

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  when any mass shooting happens is it the president’s fault?

  i’m talking over the last few decades..

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  Stop listening to right wing outlets for a couple days, just as an experiment. I have never heard any Democrat official saying they want open borders. That's a straw man concocted by talking heads. Even arguably the most vocal immigration advocate AOC says

  Ok, but what exactly does that mean, because even i'm confused. You can't on one hand say "We don't want open borders", and then on the same breath cry and complain when authorities continue to apprehend illegals, saying that "these people are only coming to seek better lives". Well of course they are, and we should tell them to follow the right steps to do that.

  Republicans do have a point here, where when Obama apprehended and deported twice as many illegals, there wasn't even a peep from democrats, but now as Trump is doing the same (much less actually), it's a national tragedy, which leads me to think this is mostly about politics.
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  Do You Think Trump Bares Any Responsibility For The Mass Shootings Occuring?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  when any mass shooting happens is it the president’s fault?

  i’m talking over the last few decades..

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  There are many people who come from other places as well that are also illegals and also stay and break the immigration laws not just south of the border.

  Yeah it's a good point. The Mexican border has become the poster child for illegal immigration, but there are many others that come in with visitor visas , student visas, etc, and then simply end up staying and never go back.

  To be fair though, the answer is to enforce it across the board, but this is not easy, because the US has a hands-off policy once you are here, you get to stay. We really only enforce things at the border or within 100 miles of the border. To my mind, local police should be enforcing it as well, if it's a law. This is what happens in other countries.
  
  
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  Do You Think Trump Bares Any Responsibility For The Mass Shootings Occuring?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  when any mass shooting happens is it the president’s fault?

  i’m talking over the last few decades..

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  The Dayton individual should have not been left with a Swiss Army

  Interesting you say this, because every so often you see news about deranged individuals say in China for example, where no one has guns, and so like you said they have to resort to knives, and here you really see the difference in the amount of carnage between the two scenarios.

  In the scenario with a knife, the crazy person gets to kill maybe one person, before everybody else runs away or starts grabbing chairs and sticks to knock him out. A force multiplier such a gun, is a dif story