Posts by redvip2000

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99.9% Of a People Who Believe In Evolution Don't Understand It.

by Space Madness in

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i never believed in evolution as i thought it didn't make sense and that what was proposed was simply impossible.

how could an environment alter an organism's dna?

as we can see however, bacteria cannot become resistance to antibiotics.

redvip2000

Scientists often use shorthand when writing about these things that give the impression they are talking about teleology but they are not.

It is easier to say for example that, "a species of finch evolved bigger beaks IN ORDER to exploit tougher seeds".

Yes, but it's still misleading. The English language has plenty of words to convey the idea without being that misleading. I'll take a shot at it:

A species of finch evolved bigger beaks, and thus were able to exploit tougher seeds.

Much better, IMO.

It is assumed the reader understands the basics. As you rightly point out this is frequently not so.

That's the first mistake. THere is no reason to assume anything. The basics in this case, is the very understanding of the process.

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its amazing that they preach that the world is about to come to an end so soon but they won't spend a dime of their own money to get the message out.. i mean think about it, a couple years back a california preacher with less than 100k followers and about 100 millions dollars was able to get his message out that the world was coming to an end in 2012 and people heard about his message globally.

the org on the other hand sold over a billion dollars worth of real estate and hasn't spent a dime to get its message out.

all the halls were built with the local brothers contributions same can be said of circuit assembly and branch sites.

redvip2000

The difference between him and WT is, he actually believed the message he was preaching

I think this is the key, because if they really believed the end was about to come and that they needed to warn people, they would logically invest in doing a better job of reaching people.

Sending people in pairs to slowly go around knocking on a few doors with a tired an innefective sales pitch is an embarassment to anybody claiming they are warning people that destruction is imminent.

The issue is that they don't believe it enough to put their money where their mouth is, and make a financial plan to exhaust their financial resources in X amount of years by spending it in radio, TV social networks and other effective means of communication. It would be a big gamble - to spend all of their money in warning people. A gamble they would clearly lose.

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American Rantings About World Cup Soccer (Football)

by RubaDub in

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i try ... i really try to watch football (soccer) ... it's world cup time ... i really do try.. i just don't get it ... i really don't.. yes, it's a world-wide sport.

in most countries it is the number 1 or number 2 sport ... no doubt about it.

it's maybe number 5 in the usa for professional sports.. from an american's perspective (i think i speak for many), we just wonder if these guys actually have testicles.

redvip2000

I am amazed at the skill and athleticism. But 1 - 0????

Well poooo. If the interest in the game of any sports is the scoring alone, then why watch any live sports? Simply watch the highlights afterwards.

I've watched great games of soccer which ended in 0 -0. So what? You are still watching great plays, and close chances. There are games where the strategy is to not get scored on, so teams invest a lot on defence - especially during big tournaments.

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American Rantings About World Cup Soccer (Football)

by RubaDub in

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i try ... i really try to watch football (soccer) ... it's world cup time ... i really do try.. i just don't get it ... i really don't.. yes, it's a world-wide sport.

in most countries it is the number 1 or number 2 sport ... no doubt about it.

it's maybe number 5 in the usa for professional sports.. from an american's perspective (i think i speak for many), we just wonder if these guys actually have testicles.

redvip2000

When someone bumps into you and you fall down in excruciating pain, shouldn't you leave the game? Happens in other sports all the time. In baseball, football, basketball, hockey, tennis, golf or any other sport I can think of here, if you are in that much pain and agony, you will be assisted off the field, either carried off or on a streatcher.

You are missing the point. In any of these sports you just mentioned, if there was a chance you could eliminate the other player by exagerating how bad you got hurt, you should see the same type of flopping.

Want another sport where you see this? Basketball. Why? Because if you can convince the referree that if the foul was a serious one, you will hurt the other team with technical fouls, flagrant fouls, etc etc.

Another thing that you need to understand is that if a player flops, then realizes the ref will not give a yellow card and just gets up as if it was nothing, he can get a yellow card for trying to deceive the ref. So once you go down, you stay down for a bit to save face.

Despite this , it is still a great sport.

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Theists, why does God allow suffering..

by The Quiet One in

..specifically, the suffering of animals.

you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.

i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.

redvip2000

Is that the same Jesus that believed in the Noah flood fairytale and that mankind started with two humans? I'll pass.... thanks

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Theists, why does God allow suffering..

by The Quiet One in

..specifically, the suffering of animals.

you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.

i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.

redvip2000

God protects some and not others in order to give hope and faith to others if they want it.

What a bunch of hogwash that is! Are you going to use that same faulty logic to explain why some in the world are throwing away food while others are dying of starvation?

Perhaps go ask a few children dying of starvation in Africa if their faith and hope has been strenghtened, now that God has relegated them to dying because they have no bread or water.

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I have no Real Friends!

by stuckinarut2 in

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i have come to a startling and sad realisation!.

i have no real friends!.

i have always been extremely active in every aspect of the org, since childhood.

redvip2000

many of us went though the same thing. Don't despair. The good thing about this, is that one friend outside of the Org is worth 1000 of "organization friends".

THere are truly wonderful people outside of the gates of the Watchtower. People who like you and don't give a shit about your religious or political views, whether you believe in God or not. People who are simply happy enjoying your company.

It takes great courage to walk out and slam the door behind you, knowing you are losing so many people in your life. You should be proud of yourself!

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org is dying

by lambsbottom in

i don't understand why so many ex jws and faders think that the jws will continue to grow and thrive as a religion.

i still attend a meeting once a week and you can smell the death of the religion creeping up when you hear the talks, read the study wts and hear the letters from the gb.

the way the organization has changed is a sign that it reached its peak (in "healthy" membership) long ago.

redvip2000

They are in it for the social structure! Get dressed up for the convention and have a fun time visiting with old friends, then go out to eat. That is what they look forward to in this religion!

This is true! But the religion itself is NOT dying. And they have not hit their peak either as they are still growing.

Some said here that most young ones in the organization are completely clueless about the doctrinal stuff inside the Org. Totally true! It has become a social club. A way to get dressed in fancy clothes once in a while and go try a new restaurant after the meeting. A way to have instant friends all over the world because you belong to a brotherhood.

My facebook was lit up this weekend with posts about the international convention at the Metlife stadium in NJ and all of the posts had nothing to do with the content of the program. It was all about traditional clothing of the delegates, how many business-like cards you collected from people you met, and other peripheral tidbits.

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I have to admit this, and you're not going to like it

by stillin in

the society has improved their game.

i just got home from the regional assembly.

it was a well-choreographed, technically excellent affair.

redvip2000

We use Ipads now at kingdom halls, making us so much better than those other religions of Christendom.

It's quite telling that JW's will praise the Org for this and not Apple. If Apple engineers had not gone to college as the Org wants, they would be writting on a piece of rock.

The organization has always been good at exactly that - organization. All cults are usually like that, organized, disciplined and focused. There is nothing surprising about that.

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JWs target retirement homes

by Scully in

in a recent post (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/67537/1051937/post.ashx#1051937) new directives to congregations by the wts included: it also suggests that the owners of all local old folks homes be contacted to provide a "free weekly bible discussion" to all elderly who want to attend in the home.

this is to be a planned weekly event to increase the number of studys pioneers hold and "provide a valuable service to the community" the society expect to see bible studies go up by 25% this year.. .

well, it is nice for us to get this heads up from the brothers?, isn't it?

redvip2000

Doesn't it make more sense to preach to the younger crowd?

The idea is that people who die before the big A, will be ressurected, so those people in retirement homes have a bigger chance of dying before.

The ORG should be prioritizing their efforts and the first priority is to preach to younger people as they are the strata which are more at risk.