The only one I can think of that is very tenuous is : I know of three cases where had these individuals remained as Drug Addicts they would now be dead. But having said that, support from other Institutions is probably better, and effective in far more cases.
Posts by Phizzy
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6Angel's Advocate
by Under No Illusion insooo.... i've been perusing recent topics for a few minutes and seeing pretty much the standard jw fare these days - scandals, abuse, bad behavior, cover ups, bullying, shunning, family splits, torturous extrications from a cult, mind control etc.. i started to try and think of anything the dubs were doing that was actually beneficial to mankind in any way, and i'm struggling.
without being facetious, wtf do they do to make anybody's life better?
help me out here.. pros.
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Born-In Fading Out
by NC1998 ini was raised in it.
there were questions, but the psychological abuse prevented me from ever really getting answers.
i am naturally a logical thinker in spite of my decades of indoctrination, and my brain just never could get passed things that were glaringly huge issues.
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Phizzy
You are most welcome here, you will find any support and advice you need, and you will find real love, despite what you have been told about XJW's.
Many have walked the road that you have taken the first steps on, the Road to True Freedom, we are here for you,and I hope many many more like you.
It is not an easy Road to begin with, a bit like the " Narrow Way" that Jesus spoke of, but the going gets easier, and the rewards along the way are just tremendous !
Keep going, happiness and personal development and fulfilment are ahead !
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Things we should not have said,
by Phizzy indo any of you remember things you should never have said to a fellow j.w ?.
two of mine come to mind, one was when we were out in field circus one day and my companion was complaining of knee pain, he explained, " it has a crack in it ", i replied " that explains why my bum hurts, that's got a crack in it", the other one was when a guy showed me a chef's knife he had bought for chopping, and i said " i always wanted a big chopper ".. you ?.
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Phizzy
Do any of you remember things you should never have said to a fellow J.W ?
Two of mine come to mind, one was when we were out in Field Circus one day and my companion was complaining of knee pain, he explained, " It has a crack in it ", I replied " That explains why my bum hurts, that's got a crack in it", the other one was when a guy showed me a Chef's knife he had bought for chopping, and I said " I always wanted a big chopper ".
You ?
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Why Are There So Many International Words to Poop and Pee?
by RubaDub inhere, in the us, we go to the "bathroom".
am i taking a bath?
we either poop or pee.. when we go to canada, we go to the "washroom".
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Phizzy
" Going to turn my bike around".
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Jehovah's Witnesses commission secret report highly critical of the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse
by jwleaks inon 14 november 2018, australian-based barristers david bennett ac, qc and james gibson presented to watchtower australia and the jehovah’s witnesses organisation their commissioned review and opinion on the findings and recommendations of the royal commission into the institutional responses to child sexual abuse as it related to jehovah’s witnesses.. .
the review entitled “review of the commission’s investigation into jehovah’s witnesses and its ensuing reports” was divided into four parts, as follows:.
part one considered the history and powers of royal commissions in general.. .
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Phizzy
I think the JW Org will see it as money well spent, an "expert" Legal view, that they can quote to assure the faithful numbnuts JW's that the R.C was not conducted "properly".
The Report does not seem to really make any accusations that stand much scrutiny as to the conducting of the R.C.
Points like the R.C seemed to think it had carte blanch to investigate all Abuse cases within the J.W's ????? Well, I would criticise the R.C if it did not !
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Just saw this on Facebbok, by Barbara Anderson, Disfellowshiping cancelled by "worldly" Court !
by Phizzy inexcuse the translation to english not being perfect ,.
barbara anderson.
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Phizzy
Excuse the translation to English not being perfect ,
" IMPORTANT NEWS FROM ITALY in English
Posted Jan. 25, 2020 on a personal blog."HISTORICAL JUDGMENT IN ITALY- THE JUDGE OVERTURNS THE DECISION OF A JUDICIAL COMMITTEE OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"
Perhaps what we will tell you is the first case in which the disfellowshipping of a Jehovah's Witness is canceled.
The lawyer Vito Pucci is a Jehovah's Witness who held high-level positions within this association.
For years he has also been a legal point of reference for the Italian Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.
It was until the requests for defense began to collide with his self and his morals, the way in which this institution asked to deal with the debates and the complaints about the crimes of pedophilia led him to make evaluations.
These evaluations and these choices cost him the expulsion or disfellowship that took place with a judicial committee (an internal body of Jehovah's Witnesses).
The Pucci thanks to his experience as a lawyer has appealed to the ordinary courts to invalidate the decision of the judicial committee.
The judge confirmed the argument of lawyer Pucci by effectively canceling that disfellowshipment, declaring it in fact illegitimate.
In the next few days, the lawyer Vito Pucci will explain the whole process he has undertaken.ATTENTION The court order referred to, dating back to June 2004 (almost sixteen years ago!) Was canceled by Judge Francesco Cassano with Ordinance of 6/12/04. The Cause continued until 19/5/2010, the date on which it was merged with the similar Cause promoted in 2005 by dr. Luigi Fallacara against the same legal entity Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.
After years of postponements and negative judgments of the first, second and third-degree, in 2018 the Fallacara case finally came to the EUROPEAN HUMAN RIGHTS COURT based in Strasbourg. Even if exhausted by the lengths of the judgments indicated above, we are all waiting to know the date of the discussion and the consequent decision. Together with prof. adv. Nicola Cipriani, we are evaluating the opportunity to have the tens/hundreds of sisters and brothers illegally disfellowshipped and discriminated against intervening in the Cause.
-------The News is a personal blog, whose purpose is not only to report LOCAL - NATIONAL - INTERNATIONAL news and facts but also to comment on them freely and independently.
The in-depth blog/newspaper is enriched with increasingly professional figures for topics related to legality with the professional figure of Elda Laudisa, an expert lawyer in the field."
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Trailer for the Oxygen documentary exposing JW abuse coverup
by krismalone inhttps://relevantmagazine.com/culture/heres-a-trailer-for-a-new-documentary-about-a-jehovahs-witnesses-child-sex-abuse-cover-up/.
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Phizzy
I really hope this gets Worldwide coverage !
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My wife and I have begun our fade
by James Jack ini haven’t posted in awhile.
my wife asked me after the year 2000 came and went without fanfare(because the wt organization said all the “new world” would be here within this 20th century would end), “ what would it take for you to leave the truth?”.
my reply was “ if i turn 60 in this “system of things”.
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Phizzy
I too, as a born in, never considered my own mortality, until just after I left I was having a chat with an XJW lady, and she threw in the remark that " We all have to die".
That shocked me rigid, but I knew she was right. From then on I began to think seriously about it, eventually became comfortable with the thought, and happy I was no longer deluded. I also learned to live each day to the full, and to take real control of my life's direction. I could no longer wait for god to do his bit.
We do only have the one life, but we can make it a good one, live it to the full, and really enjoy it.
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racism
by Stealth inhaving been raised as a jw, racism was something that was never promoted.
i now have a 9 year old that has been visiting her biological grandmother and my ex-wife.
it is my child because i adopted her.
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Phizzy
Racism is difficult to define, but the comments must have been bad enough to make you feel they simply were not right. I would do as Cofty says, get clear in my own mind what real Racism really is, explain that to my kid, and also explain that ways of talking about people are sometimes not acceptable, even if they don't come from a thoroughly 100% racist viewpoint.
I do not agree with the Poster who said your daughter has to respect points of view, or even use of language, which are simply wrong. People can have their opinions, and use the words they choose, but we do not have to respect anything that does not deserve such respect.
It isn't though, up to a 9 year old to challenge them outright, you may encourage her to simply say something like " That isn't a nice thing to say" , or to simply keep quiet, but be aware that the words are simply wrong.
Family ties are important, but as with any relationship, if they become toxic, it is time to limit contact. Don't overreact, but work hard to form your daughters own opinions along the right lines.
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My wife and I have begun our fade
by James Jack ini haven’t posted in awhile.
my wife asked me after the year 2000 came and went without fanfare(because the wt organization said all the “new world” would be here within this 20th century would end), “ what would it take for you to leave the truth?”.
my reply was “ if i turn 60 in this “system of things”.
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Phizzy
I was in my fifties when I walked away, little in the way of retirement planning, and huge debt, which got worse, as my business relied upon JW customers, I never got any more business from them !
I did not know how Mrs Phizzy would react, like me, she was born in. I was lucky, her loyalty and love for me was greater than that for the org. Although her journey away from the mental hold the org has was slower than mine, our marriage survived, and is now stronger than ever. We survived financially too, now we are far from well off, but able to weather the storm that will be the economic disaster from Brexit which is shaping up right now.
I tell you my story to give you hope and courage. Your wife is with you, and some family too, you are young enough to make a new life.
Enjoy the wonderful freedom that leaving gives you, the freedom to be the real You ! I wish you and yours all the best for the future !