This from J.W Survey :
We knew they did this to a degree, but this is a blatant way of siphoning money to where the leaders want it, with no control, no transparency, and no way for anyone to be able to see where it has gone.
Posts by Phizzy
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20FOLLOW THE MONEY !!
by Phizzy inthis from j.w survey :.
https://jwsurvey.org/we knew they did this to a degree, but this is a blatant way of siphoning money to where the leaders want it, with no control, no transparency, and no way for anyone to be able to see where it has gone.
jehovah’s witness uk headquarters dissolves kingdom hall charities, seizes full control of property and finances.
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Ever notice this about X JWs
by JimmyYoung inits not just x jws but religious people in general.
they feel free to post this crap on the internet about jesus is lord share this post, or some drivel but then if you post any thing that questions it you get jumped on like someone saying the earth is a globe at a flat earth convention.
they can say what ever they want but don't dare question it.
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Phizzy
J.W's always have to be right. If you carry that attitude over when you leave you are frankly a bit of an idiot. You have just learned that you were totally WRONG for however many years you were in, surely it should enter even a fairly thick skull that your opinions now may well be wrong too.
The dishonest and cowardly tactic of not engaging in debate to defend your views is typical JW too, and if that is the attitude of an XJW they need a bloody good long look in the mirror.
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THE IRISH TIMES: Judge orders blood can be administered to Jehovah’s Witness girl
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/judge-orders-blood-can-be-administered-to-jehovah-s-witness-girl-1.4157892.
a teenage girl who urgently requires surgery can, if necessary, be administered blood or blood products against the wishes of herself and her parents, all members of the jehovah’s witness faith, the president of the high court has ordered.. mr justice peter kelly said he was satisfied, notwithstanding the views of the girl and her parents, the orders are necessary for preserving the girl’s life and not to permit them would be “hazardous”.. the orders take immediate effect, he directed.. david leahy bl, for the hse, sought the orders in an ex parte application, one side only represented, on friday afternoon.. a solicitor for the hse told the court he had informed the girl and her parents of the court application and the parents had indicated they were not attending court to oppose it.. the solicitor said the parents were not objecting to surgery but, should a situation arise where the medical team wanted to administer blood or blood products, they could not agree to that and wanted the team to explore all other alternatives.. they had also said they wanted the best for their daughter and would not stand in the way of a court order.. mr justice kelly said court applications for leave to administer blood or blood products against the wishes of members of the jehovah’s witness faith, while not a regular occurrence, are not unusual.. he referred to a number of decisions permitting that to be done in “exceptional” circumstances.. on the medical evidence, including that antibiotic therapy had not reduced the infection and the serous risk of sepsis if surgery is not carried out, he was satisfied she needed the surgery.. read more: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/judge-orders-blood-can-be-administered-to-jehovah-s-witness-girl-1.4157892.
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Phizzy
This "dance", though farcical, is O.K I suppose in Countries that have the facility in their Legal system, I presume not all do.
It is of course high time that the Org. dropped this totally nonsensical and unfounded doctrine. It simply cannot be supported from Scripture without some very weird interpretation of texts, which are in addition to being weird, are dishonest and hypocritical.
Of course the important thing to the org. is $$$. They dare not receive " New Light" on this for fear of litigation for the years of using this murderous doctrine, adopted in the first place so rumour has it, by Mad Freddie Franz as a way of making the religion very different.
How Elders in the know, that the "dance" is encouraged from the highest level, can square this with a belief that the org. is not a total sham I know not. How can such an evil Doctrine have ever come from a loving god ? And operating a covert way of getting round it must make their Cognitive Dissonance become an internal scream.
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Article: Jehovah's Witnesses leaders ordered to pay rape victim £62,000 damages
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/jehovahs-witnesses-leaders-ordered-pay-17661919.
jehovah's witnesses leaders ordered to pay rape victim £62,000 damages.
the woman was raped by a fellow jehovah's witness after going door-to-door evangelising near cardiff, glamorgan, 30 years ago, mr justice chamberlain heard.
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Phizzy
I think they will Appeal kramer, but the House of Lords ruling that the owners of a Care Home, where a child was abused by a member of staff, were liable, may work in favour of the Appeal being dismissed.
We know how the Org has tried to wriggle out of responsibility in cases in the past, and have managed to do so, in some cases, if memory serves. I hope they do not manage it this time, and maybe a larger award may be given in damages. I can but dream.
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A new evolutionary link
by Half banana inthat heroic labeller of living things, the 18th century swede carl linnaeus, painstakingly grouped into discrete categories everything which grew breathed or moved.
his meticulous ranking of “kinds” made the scientific examination of the living world a whole lot easier.
his legacy is greatly valued and his system is still universally used today.. however as time has unfurled, a problem arose in the observation that nature does not always agree with the human desire for rigid boundaries -- of what makes a family, genus or species.
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Phizzy
Thanks Half Banana, a clear and understandable exposition for a dumbass like me. I love seeing Science in action this way, the more we get to understand the more advancement to better things is possible.
It is also pleasing to me that yet another silly argument by Creationists has been done away with. The Theory of Evolution just gets stronger with each discovery in the field.
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Ever notice this about X JWs
by JimmyYoung inits not just x jws but religious people in general.
they feel free to post this crap on the internet about jesus is lord share this post, or some drivel but then if you post any thing that questions it you get jumped on like someone saying the earth is a globe at a flat earth convention.
they can say what ever they want but don't dare question it.
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Phizzy
I have found that the XJW's I have met in person are lovely reasonable people. On line we get a variety, it is evident that many were the kind of JW who never read anything much, never researched anything for themselves, even the stuff they were allowed to, and they have continued this lazy way as XJW's.
But many more seem to have knuckled down, given themselves a better education, got well informed on a wide range of subjects, and also ended up as reasonable people, willing to change their viewpoint when corrected.
These latter ones give the best answers on here !
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Article: Jehovah's Witnesses leaders ordered to pay rape victim £62,000 damages
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/jehovahs-witnesses-leaders-ordered-pay-17661919.
jehovah's witnesses leaders ordered to pay rape victim £62,000 damages.
the woman was raped by a fellow jehovah's witness after going door-to-door evangelising near cardiff, glamorgan, 30 years ago, mr justice chamberlain heard.
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Phizzy
alanv, I am not so sure, they may very well Appeal, as the Judge said the WT of NY were vicariously liable. The powers that be in the U.S H.Q of the Jdubs will want that quashed, I would have thought.
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Why Are There So Many International Words to Poop and Pee?
by RubaDub inhere, in the us, we go to the "bathroom".
am i taking a bath?
we either poop or pee.. when we go to canada, we go to the "washroom".
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Phizzy
Thanks Rub, a truly funny guy !
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Richness of personality seems to work against spiritual-mindedness,
by snugglebunny inare you bland enough?
just incredible imho.
wt 63, 2/15.
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Phizzy
I have similar memories of some very colourful people Blues. I have observed that as the years have rolled on they are appointing more and more, and only it seems " little grey men". ( Yes men).
But the point made by the O.P was certainly valid in my case, I never wanted to be an Elder, but for a number of years the Body of Elders used to struggle with why they couldn't appoint me, and I am sure that my outspoken ways, and being a big personality regardless of Org rules were the only things they could find.
A number of Elders over the years struggled to explain to me the reasoning of the Body, not that I asked for reasons, I always said " I am happy to serve my Brothers as an M.S ", but then they would say all the things that made me "qualified" and wished I would " work toward being an Elder, one even said " We really need people like you to be an Elder". But my being a bit of a character must have saved me from that fate !
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Angel's Advocate
by Under No Illusion insooo.... i've been perusing recent topics for a few minutes and seeing pretty much the standard jw fare these days - scandals, abuse, bad behavior, cover ups, bullying, shunning, family splits, torturous extrications from a cult, mind control etc.. i started to try and think of anything the dubs were doing that was actually beneficial to mankind in any way, and i'm struggling.
without being facetious, wtf do they do to make anybody's life better?
help me out here.. pros.
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Phizzy
The only one I can think of that is very tenuous is : I know of three cases where had these individuals remained as Drug Addicts they would now be dead. But having said that, support from other Institutions is probably better, and effective in far more cases.