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  Article: Jehovah's Witnesses leaders ordered to pay rape victim £62,000 damages

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/jehovahs-witnesses-leaders-ordered-pay-17661919.

  jehovah's witnesses leaders ordered to pay rape victim £62,000 damages.

  the woman was raped by a fellow jehovah's witness after going door-to-door evangelising near cardiff, glamorgan, 30 years ago, mr justice chamberlain heard.

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  Phizzy

  kramer, I have only read the link in the O.P, and saw nothing about Mandatory Reporting ????? Have you got more on the actual Court case ?
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  FOLLOW THE MONEY !!

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this from j.w survey :.

  https://jwsurvey.org/we knew they did this to a degree, but this is a blatant way of siphoning money to where the leaders want it, with no control, no transparency, and no way for anyone to be able to see where it has gone.

  jehovah’s witness uk headquarters dissolves kingdom hall charities, seizes full control of property and finances.

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  I wonder how the old ones at my old hall feel about this ? we built it ourselves entirely, no RBC in those days, we financed it ourselves entirely, the land it was built on was donated by a local J.W.

  Ever since the Congregation has paid for upkeep and refurbishments.

  Now it is a valuable asset the org wants it, for nothing.

  Scandalous.
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  First Proper Chat With the JWs in Almost 11 Years

  by passwordprotected in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since disassociating in october 2008, i've had little to no direct contact with the jws, apart from immediate family members (ie my parents).

  i've lived in my rented flat since may 2014 and haven't had a knock on the door in that whole time.

  until saturday morning.

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  Well done PWP ! that is the only way to treat JW's fairly, with respect, and gentle words that may reach their hearts. Looking back over the years it took me to wake up, and finally leave, I realise that it was people who treated me as you treated these ladies, that made me think, and gave me stuff that nagged at me.

  A seed planted often takes a while to start to grow, but you never plant such a seed if you attack, or come over as feeling superior to them, the empathetic " I was once like you" is what works.
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  FOLLOW THE MONEY !!

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this from j.w survey :.

  https://jwsurvey.org/we knew they did this to a degree, but this is a blatant way of siphoning money to where the leaders want it, with no control, no transparency, and no way for anyone to be able to see where it has gone.

  jehovah’s witness uk headquarters dissolves kingdom hall charities, seizes full control of property and finances.

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  Phizzy

  The Docs !

  https://docdro.id/gVdXn0c
  
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  FOLLOW THE MONEY !!

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this from j.w survey :.

  https://jwsurvey.org/we knew they did this to a degree, but this is a blatant way of siphoning money to where the leaders want it, with no control, no transparency, and no way for anyone to be able to see where it has gone.

  jehovah’s witness uk headquarters dissolves kingdom hall charities, seizes full control of property and finances.

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  Phizzy

  This from J.W Survey :

  
  

  https://jwsurvey.org/
  

  We knew they did this to a degree, but this is a blatant way of siphoning money to where the leaders want it, with no control, no transparency, and no way for anyone to be able to see where it has gone.

  Jehovah’s Witness UK Headquarters Dissolves Kingdom Hall Charities, Seizes Full Control of Property and Finances

  PLEASE put this on Social Media and anywhere you can !
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  Ever notice this about X JWs

  by JimmyYoung in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  its not just x jws but religious people in general.

  they feel free to post this crap on the internet about jesus is lord share this post, or some drivel but then if you post any thing that questions it you get jumped on like someone saying the earth is a globe at a flat earth convention.

  they can say what ever they want but don't dare question it.

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  J.W's always have to be right. If you carry that attitude over when you leave you are frankly a bit of an idiot. You have just learned that you were totally WRONG for however many years you were in, surely it should enter even a fairly thick skull that your opinions now may well be wrong too.

  The dishonest and cowardly tactic of not engaging in debate to defend your views is typical JW too, and if that is the attitude of an XJW they need a bloody good long look in the mirror.
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  THE IRISH TIMES: Judge orders blood can be administered to Jehovah’s Witness girl

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/judge-orders-blood-can-be-administered-to-jehovah-s-witness-girl-1.4157892.

  a teenage girl who urgently requires surgery can, if necessary, be administered blood or blood products against the wishes of herself and her parents, all members of the jehovah’s witness faith, the president of the high court has ordered.. mr justice peter kelly said he was satisfied, notwithstanding the views of the girl and her parents, the orders are necessary for preserving the girl’s life and not to permit them would be “hazardous”.. the orders take immediate effect, he directed.. david leahy bl, for the hse, sought the orders in an ex parte application, one side only represented, on friday afternoon.. a solicitor for the hse told the court he had informed the girl and her parents of the court application and the parents had indicated they were not attending court to oppose it.. the solicitor said the parents were not objecting to surgery but, should a situation arise where the medical team wanted to administer blood or blood products, they could not agree to that and wanted the team to explore all other alternatives.. they had also said they wanted the best for their daughter and would not stand in the way of a court order.. mr justice kelly said court applications for leave to administer blood or blood products against the wishes of members of the jehovah’s witness faith, while not a regular occurrence, are not unusual.. he referred to a number of decisions permitting that to be done in “exceptional” circumstances.. on the medical evidence, including that antibiotic therapy had not reduced the infection and the serous risk of sepsis if surgery is not carried out, he was satisfied she needed the surgery.. read more: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/judge-orders-blood-can-be-administered-to-jehovah-s-witness-girl-1.4157892.

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  This "dance", though farcical, is O.K I suppose in Countries that have the facility in their Legal system, I presume not all do.

  It is of course high time that the Org. dropped this totally nonsensical and unfounded doctrine. It simply cannot be supported from Scripture without some very weird interpretation of texts, which are in addition to being weird, are dishonest and hypocritical.

  Of course the important thing to the org. is $$$. They dare not receive " New Light" on this for fear of litigation for the years of using this murderous doctrine, adopted in the first place so rumour has it, by Mad Freddie Franz as a way of making the religion very different.

  How Elders in the know, that the "dance" is encouraged from the highest level, can square this with a belief that the org. is not a total sham I know not. How can such an evil Doctrine have ever come from a loving god ? And operating a covert way of getting round it must make their Cognitive Dissonance become an internal scream.
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  Article: Jehovah's Witnesses leaders ordered to pay rape victim £62,000 damages

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/jehovahs-witnesses-leaders-ordered-pay-17661919.

  jehovah's witnesses leaders ordered to pay rape victim £62,000 damages.

  the woman was raped by a fellow jehovah's witness after going door-to-door evangelising near cardiff, glamorgan, 30 years ago, mr justice chamberlain heard.

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  I think they will Appeal kramer, but the House of Lords ruling that the owners of a Care Home, where a child was abused by a member of staff, were liable, may work in favour of the Appeal being dismissed.

  We know how the Org has tried to wriggle out of responsibility in cases in the past, and have managed to do so, in some cases, if memory serves. I hope they do not manage it this time, and maybe a larger award may be given in damages. I can but dream.
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  A new evolutionary link

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  that heroic labeller of living things, the 18th century swede carl linnaeus, painstakingly grouped into discrete categories everything which grew breathed or moved.

  his meticulous ranking of “kinds” made the scientific examination of the living world a whole lot easier.

  his legacy is greatly valued and his system is still universally used today.. however as time has unfurled, a problem arose in the observation that nature does not always agree with the human desire for rigid boundaries -- of what makes a family, genus or species.

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  Thanks Half Banana, a clear and understandable exposition for a dumbass like me. I love seeing Science in action this way, the more we get to understand the more advancement to better things is possible.

  It is also pleasing to me that yet another silly argument by Creationists has been done away with. The Theory of Evolution just gets stronger with each discovery in the field.
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  Ever notice this about X JWs

  by JimmyYoung in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  its not just x jws but religious people in general.

  they feel free to post this crap on the internet about jesus is lord share this post, or some drivel but then if you post any thing that questions it you get jumped on like someone saying the earth is a globe at a flat earth convention.

  they can say what ever they want but don't dare question it.

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  Phizzy

  I have found that the XJW's I have met in person are lovely reasonable people. On line we get a variety, it is evident that many were the kind of JW who never read anything much, never researched anything for themselves, even the stuff they were allowed to, and they have continued this lazy way as XJW's.

  But many more seem to have knuckled down, given themselves a better education, got well informed on a wide range of subjects, and also ended up as reasonable people, willing to change their viewpoint when corrected.

  These latter ones give the best answers on here !