Posts by Phizzy

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The "Messiah"

by Doug Mason in

i will appreciate corrections and criticisms of my draft notes on the subject of "messiah".. it will not surprise anyone that the material is not simplistic nor emotive.. https://jwstudies.com/messiahs_emerged__preliminary_draft_.pdf.

thanks,.

doug.

Phizzy

I look forward to reading the Work when it is complete.

A couple of things particularly interest me, one is that the Qumran community expected two "Messiahs", and I think two are hinted at in the Canonical Book of Daniel ?? If one is the High Priest of around Daniels time of writing, 164 BCE, is the other future ?

The other point of interest is that Chrystos is a proper name in the 1st Century, so, is the Chrystos mentioned in Josephus therefore without doubt Jesus of Nazareth, or could he be some other person ?

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IICSA hearings resume next week

by Corney in

the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (iicsa) will hold additional virtual public hearings in the child protection in religious organisations and settings investigation next week.. the timetable was released today: https://www.iicsa.org.uk/key-documents/20825/view/virtual-cpiros-timetable-week-3-10-august-2020.pdf .

five witnesses will testify on the jw issue next monday and tuesday, 10 and 11 august:.

- pr-a5, a victim abused by ministerial servant peter stewart;.

Phizzy

Right at the end Gillies is asked if he attended a seminar in 2017 about destroying JW Org Documents and Records, headed by one Shaun Bartlett.

Gillies all of a sudden cannot recall, yet throughout his Testimony his art of recall has been excellent, quoting document numbers etc with ease, but he cannot recall this Seminar in 2017 ?

Gillies is The Slippery Snake indeed !

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"Burnt remains from 586 BCE Jerusalem may hold key to protecting planet."

by Doug Mason in

"a new analysis of 1st temple-era artifacts, magnetized when babylonians torched the city, provides a way to chart the geomagnetic field – physics’ holy grail – and maybe save earth".

https://www.timesofisrael.com/burnt-remains-of-586-bce-destruction-of-jerusalem-help-map-physics-holy-grail/?utm_source=the+daily+edition&utm_campaign=daily-edition-2020-08-09&utm_medium=email#comments.

Phizzy

" took place on Tisha B’Av. “I don’t know of anyone who doubts the historicity of the event,” said Vaknin. However, even gaining “surety to the month, and even to the year is very rare” when speaking of events that took place 2,600 years ago, said Vaknin " . (586BCE).

We know of a Group who would dispute Tish B'Av, 586 BCE. Don't we ?? LOL.

The saddest day of the Jewish year, not one that the Jews would get wrong is it ?

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IICSA hearings resume next week

by Corney in

the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (iicsa) will hold additional virtual public hearings in the child protection in religious organisations and settings investigation next week.. the timetable was released today: https://www.iicsa.org.uk/key-documents/20825/view/virtual-cpiros-timetable-week-3-10-august-2020.pdf .

five witnesses will testify on the jw issue next monday and tuesday, 10 and 11 august:.

- pr-a5, a victim abused by ministerial servant peter stewart;.

Phizzy

Just bumping this thread for anyone who may wish to listen in, especially to that slippery snake Paul Gillies, watch the clever way he will lie, but not in a way that can be called perjury !

He is there , giving evidence, to get the JW org off the hook as far as paying Compensation goes.

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Brushed under the carpet for 30 years

by Fadeaway1962 in

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/north-staffordshire-sex-beast-finally-4401250 .

brushed under the carpet for 30 years, .

hope the iicsa are made aware of this for monday..

Phizzy

"Victims of sexual offences should come forward, no matter how long the passage of time, and tell police what happened. They will be listened to.”

The above is something that needs publicising, some Victims may not be aware that there is now no limit on time.

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Is Silent Lambs and Bill Bowen still relevant?

by HappyDad in

when i joined this forum in 2004, silent lambs was a very important venue for those who suffered the crime of child abuse in the jehovah's witness religion.

bill bowen was instrumental in exposing a lot of the cover up along with barbara anderson.

i was wondering if silent lambs is still relevant and does it still help abuse victims?.

Phizzy

Bill and his work, along with that of Barbara, and others, will always be relevant as long as the paedophile Problem of J.W Org remains. And it does remain. Despite their having to pay out huge sums in compensation they HAVE NOT CHANGED !!!

They have not instituted a proper active programme that will protect the Vulnerable, children and other vulnerable ones are as much at Risk within the Org as they ever were.

Keep up your good work, Bill, and all others involved ! Victims need support and love, and we need to keep fighting until the J.W Org does the morally right thing and makes sure no other child or vulnerable person can be Raped and Sodomised, or mentally Tortured or Physically Beaten in their despicable Organisation.

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Netherlands: sexual abuse report can stay online judge rules

by yalbmert99 in

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/08/jehovahs-witness-sexual-abuse-report-can-stay-online-judge-rules/.

Phizzy

The JW org has bullied by using the Courts for many years. The Courts will no longer roll over and allow this, although they can be successful in bullying an individual, as happened recently, with the taking down of Videos etc of their Conventions.

They are very near to committing Perjury in many instances, one day they will be charged with that I hope, and will find that their outright lies won't work anymore either.

If they were truly gods organisation, they would have procedures in place to protect the vulnerable, and would not have to be so ashamed of their position, as one of the few organisations anywhere in the World who do not have such procedures. And they would not have to try to suppress the information getting to the Public that they are a Paedophile Paradise, would they ?

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The toxic JW Worldview

by TD in

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sometimes i forget how small-minded, petty, provincial, mean-spirited ignorant and judgemental it was and still is.... then i sit down with a jw relative, hoping to have a normal conversation and realize there is literally nothing to talk about.. nothing..... current events?

hobbies?

your job?

Phizzy

This is another problem their blatant hypocrisy, as shown by Gorby's experience, " then they began being angry "we are free to say what we want".

But we are not ! as soon as we say anything "against" the religion, even though what we say is perfectly true, we are shut down. As soon as we talk about political matters, maybe something as mildly political as criticising our particular Government's handling of the pandemic, they get all shifty and uncomfortable and won't converse about it.

One Rule for them, and one for us. Conversation about anything more interesting than their bad back or whatever ? forget it. Discussion in a civilised, intelligent and in depth way upon anything ? don't even consider it, it isn't that they do not want to, it is that they are simply incapable of that.

This makes any verbal contact with them both boring and pointless.

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Pioneering for real

by Giordano in

i promised mom i'd pioneer for a year after graduating hs.. but!

i didn't say where.. i chose a small store front kingdom hall in kane pa, one of the coldest places in nw pennsylvania.

they were impressed with their frosty weather.

Phizzy

stan livedeath : " Luxury..... o' course, WE 'ad it 'ard . O' course, tell that t'kids today they wouldn't believe a word of it !". ( with thanks to the Monty Python 4 Yorkshiremen Sketch ).

I Regular Pioneered for a short time after High School and it was in the old 100 Hours a Month days, I soon packed that in, got a full time job, and when i was 25 started my pension, this was in August of 1975, when The End was supposed to come in October ! My pension did not pay out until I was 65, and actually I thought the " New System" would be here long before I ever drew it. I am so glad now I hedged my bets. I would have to live in a place with no bath or inside toilet now if I hadn't !

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BOE Update! (as of 2020-07-31)

by Atlantis in

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body of elder letters, announcements, and so forth will be next to "none" unless more elders decide to contact us and help out.. atlantis has lost three elders in the past two years.

two elders were disfellowshipped, and one disassociated and walk away a month ago.. when this happens receiving confidential documents is severed.

the last announcement we received was 2020-07-23. i was not about to send out a childish letter on "mold" in the kingdom halls.. there are people out there out of work and concerned about what they will eat tomorrow, and the watchtower is concerned with mold!.

Phizzy

May I add my heartfelt thanks for all you have done, it has been a fun time to peer in to how pathetic the JW world has become in recent years.

You never know, another " mole" may pop up and supply stuff, but, no matter, if that doesn't happen. We still find out eventually how the JW Org is slowly disintegrating as it withers away.

Thank you again.