Posts by Phizzy

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Collapse of JW Org - Possibly on the Horizon?

by JWTom in

this topics get a great deal of discussion here.

what i find interesting is even some of my pimi family is embracing the reality that all is not well with jw.org and that many current jws are just going through the motions due to not having a good way out of the org.

wondering what could realistically lead to the collapse of jw.org in the not distant future?

Phizzy

The one thing that keeps the majority of JW's in is FEAR. Fear of a number of things, sometimes all of the things we could list, sometimes just one or two.

The fear that keeps PIMO folks in is the fear of losing Family. Remove that fear, or diminish it greatly, and PIMO's would leave in droves.

If a Court Action were successful in a major Court that the JW Org shunning was illegal, and they could be sued for damages, they would have a sudden shaft of New Light and change the Policy. I know they have foreseen this, and structured things in such a way that they think the Org itself is immune from Legal action, but if they are wrong, and it happens, I think the dwindling of the Org from their Reported 8 Mill plus would happen very fast, until they were down in the hundreds of thousands only.

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Please Keep Your Religion Out Of My Mouth

by OnTheOutside in

i came across this article about a dental technician forcing her religion down a patient's throat (literally).

turns out the technician is a jw.

it would appear she can count her time preaching to a captive audience and being paid on the job.

Phizzy

I always thought it was unethical of me to preach my religious views to people when I was working, and in certain other situations where it would put them in an embarrassing situation where they had to tell me to can it.

I felt that if I knocked on someone's door uninvited then they had the freedom to say what they wanted, and not feel awkward about it.

Of course many people over the years asked me about my beliefs when I was working, as they knew I was a JW , so then I it was O.K.by me.

This J.W obviously cares more about her Reported Time than about people.

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Serial killer JW hopes to go to heaven soon.

by Lost in the fog in

guess that is the sort of person being attracted to the truth these days!.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/yorkshire-ripper-peter-sutcliffe-thinks-22976938.

Phizzy

The sad thing is that a number of theses poor ladies need not have died, the Yorkshire Police's investigation was the most inept of recent years. I do hope that lessons have been learned.

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Serial killer JW hopes to go to heaven soon.

by Lost in the fog in

guess that is the sort of person being attracted to the truth these days!.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/yorkshire-ripper-peter-sutcliffe-thinks-22976938.

Phizzy

We should be remembering and respecting his thirteen victims.

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The Documentary Hypothesis and the 20th century trap.

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

this post will be for the schoolars amoung us.. in the late 19th century were many of the worlds best scientists.

darwin, faraday, testla, edison etc.

and amoung them wasa lone archeologist named william albright who screwed up biblical schoolarship for over a hundred years.. before albright schoolars in europe hit on several conclusions about the bible:.

Phizzy

Thanks HTBWC for telling us of your method, and your new findings. I am always pleased to change my mind when proof emerges that an idea I held was wrong, though it is a shock sometimes !

I have had many such shocks since leaving the JW org well over a decade ago, so I am getting used to it. The fact that you are so willing to rewrite gives me confidence your book will be as accurate as possible, but things move with such speed, even in the seemingly dusty and arcane world of Biblical studies, that your book may need an addendum or two !.

Good luck with your work, I take it that like me you find Scholars that are more secular or Atheistic in their outlook to be far more credible than the Scholarly "believers" ?

It seems that many of these reliable Scholars do put the composition of the O.T as very late compared to earlier thinking, the other question is, who were these men that composed the O.T. in terms of Ethnicity, and Education and Religious influence ?

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Serial killer JW hopes to go to heaven soon.

by Lost in the fog in

guess that is the sort of person being attracted to the truth these days!.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/yorkshire-ripper-peter-sutcliffe-thinks-22976938.

Phizzy

"attracted to the ...." WHAAAAT ! please do not use Cult Mind Control words or phrases on here, it really does annoy.

I know you are still attending, so the phrases and words are drummed in to you, but try not to actually use them on here. "The truth" FFS.

Strange to think that the JW who was trying to indoctrinate Sutcliffe would have got some Kudos from other JW's for going in to the prison to preach to him, and yet, obviously not a very good job was made of it !

It is possible of course that the Reporter misunderstood JW Doctrine.

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2020--Civil Unrest--Food Distribution Pause--Computer Security! (as of 2020-11-05)

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

3 letters:.

1. civil unrest.

2. food distribution pause.

Phizzy

It strikes me that the Org is on a winner with the "Civil Unrest" warning, if it happens, and there is bound to be some , knowing Trump supporters, the Org seems prescient , and "Jehovah's Spirit guided them " , if, by luck, nothing much happens, then they were " being so loving, making sure we stayed safe, if something had happened".

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New Lockdowns in The UK

by Slidin Fast in

maybe the borg was right all the time.

maybe armageddon is just an unassailable tide of boredom and november ennui (good word that).. i did a typo, nobember and nearly left it in.

or knobember.

Phizzy

The root cause of the Government having lost control of the Virus is their Test and Trace Corruption Scandal. With proper Test and PROPER Tracing and then Isolating put in place, infection is controlled.

They are rolling out in Liverpool to start with, a mass testing programme, we will see how that goes. And see if proper follow up to Tests is done. I have my doubts, but maybe, just maybe.

We have a Government that has never, throughout this, really followed " the Science", and as recently, have blatantly ignored the very best Scientific advice. The irony is, that in this ignoring, motivated by trying to keep the Economy going, it is now going to be stalled again by a half-arsed measure, with again, advice that this is not a way forward ,being ignored.

I can see us being not just the worst affected Nation in Europe, but the very last to come out of this. In a very few weeks, the Brexit fiasco will begin. What a total mess this Government has made of what when they took over was the 5th richest Nation, in a years time we will be lucky to be around 15th.

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But you told us about those dates.

by Lost in the fog in

you couldn't make it up!

saw this wt quote on a friend's page.

it is from the awake magazine of 1993, march 22nd apparently.

Phizzy

They really are just "Full of lies", I lived through all that , the lead up to 1975, the fallout, the non-excuses, blaming the R&F , the half-arsed "apology" in 1981 if memory serves.

" How many lives ruined because of their misleading end times claims? "

How many indeed ! I know so many JW's whose future was shot to pieces by their "predictions", one guy would be a Multi-Millionaire today but for them, to give him his due, he is sanguine about it, nice guy. But how many others have no Pension ? no quality of life ? and they try to wriggle out of ANY responsibility ! Bastards !

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New Lockdowns in The UK

by Slidin Fast in

maybe the borg was right all the time.

maybe armageddon is just an unassailable tide of boredom and november ennui (good word that).. i did a typo, nobember and nearly left it in.

or knobember.

Phizzy

Slidin, you been drinking ? maybe a more understandable Post is called for ? I've been drinking too, so don't feel embarrassed ! It's Sunday FFS ! and lockdown 2 looms.

Well, half a lockdown, the clowns we have in Government are going to leave Schools etc open, where most spreading of Covid19 takes place, and then the little kiddies take it home, to parents and grandparents.

Well done U.K Government, more unnecessary deaths, you incompetent bunch of ideology led cockwombles.