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  1914- responsible for the biggest decrease in JW's?

  by joey jojo in

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  2. beliefs

  theres a couple of threads re: 1914 on the board right now and it got me thinking.. the jw doctrine of the 1914 generation is a key doctrine , yet it is probably the number one reason most have left over the decades.. 1975- within one generation.. 1995 - new understanding of the word generation.. 2010- overlapping generation first mentioned- some anointed survive armageddon.. 2015- infamous overlapping generations chart featuring david splane.. its obvious the org is changing the goalposts and constantly trying to squeeze as much time as they can before they have to abandon this altogether.

  or will they come up with something new?.

  does anyone else think this ever changing doctrine is responsible for the biggest loss of members?.

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  Phizzy

  For me, the 1914 rubbish was THE reason I left. I read the prophecy in Daniel and decided there was NO WAY a sane person could make a prophecy out of it that went further than what it says in the chapter, that it was fulfilled by the temporary madness of the King ending after seven years.

  An Elder said he would come back to me on it, and prove 1914 to me. He never returned. I then researched on line and found that the date 607 BCE for the destruction of Jerusalem was wrong, wrong totally and without doubt.

  Therefore this meant that No 1914 = No 1919 choosing of a GB = today's G.B are self-appointed Charlatans.

  I then spent many hours researching everything J.W , and the whole House of Cards that is their teaching and Claims fell down.

  You and I have been conned by a massive, money making Scam.
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  How Murderers In the Congregation are handled

  by blondie in

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  i don't have the link but i am trying to post this, this is from a previous post on jwn.

  watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc. dear brothers:.. we received your letter of december 17 in which you inquire about handling a situation involving a brother who has been guilty of serious violation of the law in the past.. you explained that you received information indicating that this brother ?committed several murders and crimes before his baptism.

  you ask if law obligates some action on our part.

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  Phizzy

  Here in the U.K there is no Clergy/Penitent privilege, things confessed need not be kept confidential, though in practice usually are by most Churches, if they are not criminal offences. If they are Criminal acts, the priest/vicar/minister is bound in Law to disclose the Crime/crimes !

  The silly thing about the Org. is it is so parochial it thinks its advice is universal.

  Without doubt, even though in law they may be alright in the USA, it is a moral duty that they are again not willing to fulfill. The Org really is despicable, and Immoral.
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  The Sanitizing of David

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the bible depicts king david as a deeply flawed, unsavory character, the perpetrator of evil acts including: murder, insurrection, adultery, banditry, and extortion.

  the sanitizing of david’s character during the following centuries and millennia created an image that idolizes him as the paragon of virtue, closely associated with the promised messiah.

  my study identifies the davidic sanitizing process.. https://www.academia.edu/s/390a7ba170?source=link .

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  Phizzy

  Thanks Doug.
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  When did JWs stop reciting the Lord’s Prayer together?

  by slimboyfat in

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  does anyone know what year?

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  Phizzy

  J.W's never did that in my time, I was born in to the "religion" in 1950, and always the reciting of prayers by rote was condemned as wrong based upon Jesus' words.

  Was your experience different in the J.W's ? I find that strange if so. Rogue Congregation ?
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  The best of... AlanF

  by Lady Lee in

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  alanf threads

  confirming wts scholastic dishonesty http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/3174/1.ashx.

  bad defensive arguments http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/3719/1.ashx.

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  The best of... AlanF

  by Lady Lee in

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  alanf threads

  confirming wts scholastic dishonesty http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/3174/1.ashx.

  bad defensive arguments http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/3719/1.ashx.

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  Phizzy

  Alan sadly died recently. Details of Memorial Service etc on Facebook.
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  Funniest insults

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. humour

  so, i was wondering what are the funniest insults i've heard/been called.. the woman who taught me the arabic alphabet did a lesson about insults in colloquial palestinian arabic.. the one that stuck out to me was iniqbir or ini'bir.

  literal meaning: bury yourself.

  "go and bury yourself".

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  Phizzy

  "May your next turd be a hedgehog !".
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  Phizzy and Stan livedeath

  by Fadeaway1962 in

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  anyone heard from these guys ?

  it's been a while since they have posted ..

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  Phizzy

  Hi folks, just to let you know that this Old Fart is still alive, but that I too have decided my time here is over as to commenting, I will pop in and read from time to time, just to keep an eye on the old place, but I shall not be commenting, as I have spent far too much time on here over the years.

  I will be eternally grateful to this site, and to Simon for starting it, and continuing to keep it going, as I have written before, this place, well the wonderful Posters on here, literally saved my life. But now I have a lot of other things that I battle for, and I feel all you lot are capable of looking after any JW Newbies that may show up.

  But be aware that I will be reading on here, so don't be too silly ! but continue to be as naughty as you like !

  All the best to all of you in the future !
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  your last big assembly

  by stan livedeath in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  can you remember the last big assembly you went to ?

  by big--i mean bigger than a circuit job--so--district ?

  whole country at a stadium thing.. my last one was old wembley stadium uk..about 1969 ?

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  Phizzy

  Mine was the District Assembly of 2006, I was just beginning to wake up fully. I remember being miserable there. I think I attended one small Circuit Assy. after that but can't be sure. I certainly never did another biggie, I just did not go to the 2007 District Assy, nobody, not even my J.W family, noticed, and by 2008, March, I was gone for good.

  I just wish I had been like Stan, and woken up far earlier, but Hey Ho, no Internet, and being a bit Thick, it took me a lot longer.
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  ''Deliverance at Hand''. Now 15 years on &....

  by Beth Sarim in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ....and still no big 'a'.

  armageddon.. it was 15 years ago dubland was in lala dream-like almost trance-like state hanging on the notion the big 'a' was imminent.. it was ironic.

  ironic at that time was when.... i was starting my long waking-up process.

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  Phizzy

  Was the Theme of the District Conventions in 2006 " Deliverance at Hand " ? or was it a book or something ?

  I do know that the 2006 one was the last District Convention I ever attended, but of course cannot remember the Theme or any of the Talks ha ha, J.W's can't remember the contents of the Talks two weeks after !

  The one thing I can be sure of is that I had by then got no belief in the imminence of Armageddon or anything, and was starting the process of fully waking up.

  So, 15 years ago, I had really taken my first tentative steps on the Road to Freedom !