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Posts by Phizzy
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2022-June-Documents!
by Atlantis in2022-06-documents.. 2022-governing body update #4 transcript.. 2022-june-announcements and reminders.2022-june-2nd-announcement.. 2022-june-3rd-announcement.. are you prepared for a natural disaster 2022?all in the zipped folder.https://www.filemail.com/d/gvybkvpfhomqplrorhttps://we.tl/t-vlsunqkp9x2022-06-publications approved for discard.
s-60-e. https://we.tl/t-xc7ornkzlj.
atlantis!.
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"this is why we need gods kingdom!"
by nowwhat? injdubs go to answer when we see terrible tragedies.
tell them it's been 20 years since columbine and 10 years since sandy hook!
still nothing!.
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Phizzy
As "God's Kingdom" is a total Fiction, we need more positive things than that ! and soon !
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Start of the Great Tribulation will be announced soon
by joey jojo inat the 2021 annual meeting, samuel herd revealed new light and claimed the anointed will all have passed away before armageddon.
it has since been revealed that while they will die before armageddon, there will be some anointed still around that will witness the start of the great tribulation.. so the question is, how many years until the existing members of the governing body have passed away?.
im not a doctor, but based on their age and various stages of obesity, im thinking 10- 15 years- give or take, sounds about right.. with that in mind, the great tribulation could be announced any day.. the new understanding has now freed the org from the burden of having to identify a particular generation in relation to the date of armageddon.
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Phizzy
" The term "The Great Tribulation" comes from Revelation 7:14."
Well "John" here is using the same expression that we find put in to the mouth of Jesus by the Synoptic Gospel Writers, in Matt. 24 and Mark 13. These being written earlier than Revelation, "John" would be familiar with them.
More interesting is to read the context of the Synoptic's words around this expression in the Olivet Discourse. Read as an unbiased Academic would, not a Believer. Take those "Believer's Specs" off !
It is plain to see if you read the "words of Jesus" here, that he is claiming that he would return in the lifetime of his listeners.
Another failed Biblical Prophecy.
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Will the ministry ever resume?
by optimisticskeptic ingoing on 2+ years of no public ministry.
can't imagine anyone is really enjoying letter writing still or that it's remotely effective.
i'm a little shocked that we haven't resumed yet but i guess that's what happens when the org is run by a bunch of old people (ie high risk for covid) and a bunch of other sheltered germaphobes.
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Phizzy
Public Ministry to restart... " with the exception of the door-to-door ministry. "
I wonder if they will perhaps stop the D to D forever please ? Oh what a Blessing that would be for the long suffering Public !
I doubt it, they will bring it back in some way, despite the vast majority of J.W's hating it ! most would rather hide behind a Cart, or better still, write Letters, which I find offensive in their first lie , " Dear Neighbour" , when it is from someone I have never met, who lives Miles away, and in asking me to go to their Culty Site !
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4 New GB Helpers
by Reservations inapparently 4 new gb helpers as per reddit.
1) paul gillies.
2) johnathan smith.
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Phizzy
"Gillies is a slimy snake," well said that man ! There is Video evidence of him lying.
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What Does Prayer Actually Do?
by punkofnice inif you think it works, what is your evidence outside of possible coincidence?.
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Phizzy
The Flying Spaghetti Monster, peas be upon him, Ramen, is the True God.
Change my mind.
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The JW's greatest dogma...
by BoogerMan in....that god almighty/jesus personally selected j.f.
rutherford & wtbts inc. as a front for worldwide christianity, is an affront to worldwide christians.. the adage, “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” was made for such spurious assertions.. as with jw's who claim, "jehovah answered my prayer for......," both claims rely on total credulity, and zero evidence of divine intervention.
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Phizzy
I would like to see J.W Apologists come here and try to defend it, perhaps we could reason with them ?
Or would they merely say what an Elder said to me when I presented the stuff to him in my comment above, and other actual Facts, " Well I think there is enough to satisfy me they were chosen" , I gave up with him then, but Really ? What ?
I know some say "What they have done in recent years shows the G.B have Jehovah's approval" , again, Really ? What ?
And even if that were vaguely true, that DOES NOT prove the 1919 "Choosing" , so the J.W's are mistaken about that, the G.B in particular.
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What Does Prayer Actually Do?
by punkofnice inif you think it works, what is your evidence outside of possible coincidence?.
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Phizzy
The most disgusting of Prayers are the ones for sufferers of Disasters and Mass Shootings etc. Apart form not actually doing anything, those doing the praying allow themselves to do NOTHING FURTHER !
They are like the Pharisee standing in the Street for all to see his pious prayer to god, but not caring for his Parents. Hypocritical, and an insult to those who need real help.
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The JW's greatest dogma...
by BoogerMan in....that god almighty/jesus personally selected j.f.
rutherford & wtbts inc. as a front for worldwide christianity, is an affront to worldwide christians.. the adage, “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” was made for such spurious assertions.. as with jw's who claim, "jehovah answered my prayer for......," both claims rely on total credulity, and zero evidence of divine intervention.
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Phizzy
The selection/choosing of Rutherford &Co, by Jesus !! in 1918/9 makes no sense according to the facts about what they taught, and did not teach, at the time, none of it is accepted in any way by J W org today, so HOW could it be "food at the proper time" as served by a faithful and Discreet Slave ???
The Christadelphians at that time, not being a significantly smaller group, if at all, were teaching much what the org teaches today, why NOT choose them ?? Rutherford and Co disgustingly supported the First World War, Rutherford urging the purchase of War Bonds, no way were they neutral Conscientious Objectors. The Christadelphians were !! had been since the Civil War !
The Christadelphians do not claim to be exclusively chosen by Jesus in 1918/19, as they never fell for the 1914 nonsense, that totally discredited dogma is what the Org relies upon.
All this means : No 1914 = No 18/19 "Choosing" = Today's Governing Body are self-appointed Charlatans.
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Date of Adam's "Creation?
by Slidin Fast inhow do jws resolve these conflicting facts.. 1. no matter how you spin it, bible chronology calculates to circa 4000 bc for adam's creation.
i followed the trail many years ago and that's what it adds up to.. 2. the most cursory investigation of any branch of relevant science puts man's habitation on the earth as hugely earlier than that.
it's now so well-proved that anyone disputing it is guilty of wilful ignorance.
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Phizzy
The problem for J.W Org is that as far as possible they have followed C.T Russell's lead in interpreting the Bible literally as far as they can get away with it, and of course when it suits them.
A Literalist view of the Bible was espoused in the late 19th Century and into the early 20th Century, by a few Protestant Ministers mainly, to counter the plain Evidence that the Earth was much much older than the Bible intimates, mind you, the Genesis passages on Creation have NOT been interpreted by J.W's in a Literal way, in total, for years, as to do so would be plain stupid, they Cherry Pick which bits to interpret one way or the other.
But the Crazy Bible Chronology is plain for all to see.