Posts by Phizzy

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Reddit post about elder asking congregation for money to fix his car!

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

yes, there’s a post on reddit.

it says that after a zoom meeting a request was made to baptized publishers to give $20 apiece to fix this elder’s car.. while this sounds highly irregular to me and not necessarily approved by the religion, i am not at all surprised at the nerve.

this, unfortunately, seems to be the direction that things are going there!

Phizzy

Just an update on the Elder I mentioned on my earlier Post, saying " Getting back to Elder with Audi, my friend said "He has never worked since he left School " I must find out if she means worked full time, as I guess he must do part time, he is married with two kids."

I asked my friend, yup, he has not had even a part time job since leaving School a few decades ago ! apparently he is a ducker and diver, buys and sells stuff, but his wife works full time, my friend said he told her that when he mentioned some work needed doing on his car, a day later an envelope was shoved through his door with the necessary cash in it, apparently "Jehoober provided," because he is a Pioneer.

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How do you feel about Brexit?

by SydBarrett in

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friends

the "independent scotland" thread got me thinking on this.

there are a lot of brits on this board.

what are your thoughts on brexit?

Phizzy

Thanks Dio, I was aware of all this, as I had to counter the claims of a Daily Mail reader about how the Court could "dictate" to us, and so presented that very information to him, some time last year IIRC.

To suggest we disassociate from the protection offered by the ECHR is just blinkered xenophobia.

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How do you feel about Brexit?

by SydBarrett in

jw
friends

the "independent scotland" thread got me thinking on this.

there are a lot of brits on this board.

what are your thoughts on brexit?

Phizzy

You are Studiously avoiding my points about the vital existence for us in the U.K of the ECHR, your questions are irrelevant to my concerns.

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How do you feel about Brexit?

by SydBarrett in

jw
friends

the "independent scotland" thread got me thinking on this.

there are a lot of brits on this board.

what are your thoughts on brexit?

Phizzy

Oh boy, leave the ECHR ? why FFS, just because you are xenophobic ? It is there to defend the Human Rights of people, based upon the Human Rights Charter we helped to write ! It sprang from the Council of Europe, which we helped to pull together, it is FA to do with the E.U.

If human rights have been breached in the U.K then I don't give a fig what nationality the Judge is who gives my Rights back !

What restraint would there be upon a Government like the Raving Right one we have now, without the ECHR ? Braverman and her ghoulish mates would just love us to leave.

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Reddit post about elder asking congregation for money to fix his car!

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

yes, there’s a post on reddit.

it says that after a zoom meeting a request was made to baptized publishers to give $20 apiece to fix this elder’s car.. while this sounds highly irregular to me and not necessarily approved by the religion, i am not at all surprised at the nerve.

this, unfortunately, seems to be the direction that things are going there!

Phizzy

A friend who I only told recently that I had been raised a JW said her brother in law was an Elder and a Pioneer ( small world!), and she knows he doesn't pay for repairs on his Audi, I guess either his Congo. does or rich Bro.

In my Congo. before I left a well off bro. used to fill up the Tanks on Pioneer's cars when he was out with them on the knock-knocks. That seemed kind of wrong to me,that they would accept that, when I was a Reg. Pio. kindly ones used to give me a very small contribution toward petrol which I was embarrassed to accept, but they didn't drive so appreciated me being chauffer. No one ever really covered what it cost me, but a small thoughtful contribution was kind.

Getting back to Elder with Audi, my friend said "He has never worked since he left School " I must find out if she means worked full time, as I guess he must do part time, he is married with two kids.

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Anyone know what this sculpture is of the "torture stake?"

by charity7 in

hey guys!

i'm new on this site and am a non jw here married to a jw.

my husband's family are active members and they daily post articles on facebook from jw.org which i know is meant for me to see and read.

Phizzy

It was pointed out in a Book I read years ago that if someone was suspended on a Stauros as the W.T illustrate, Jesus would have likely died quickly, not survived the number of hours the Gospels suggest, because the lungs fill up with fluid very quickly with arms way above the head, wheres if on a cross, the Victim could survive for two days perhaps.

Whether this claim is accurate, I do not know,

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How do you feel about Brexit?

by SydBarrett in

jw
friends

the "independent scotland" thread got me thinking on this.

there are a lot of brits on this board.

what are your thoughts on brexit?

Phizzy

Which "pluses" would they be exactly ?

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"Independent" Scotland joke!

by BoogerMan in

humza yousaf, scotland's first minister, said: "scotland, i'm afraid, is suffering because we are not independent.

" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-66012834.

try telling that to scotland's tourists and many island communities: the ferry services are dying month by month, and the two new overdue & over-budget ferries justify a serious legal/criminal enquiry.. any bunch of incompetents who can't provide a small country with a ferry service and a legally binding contract to build 2 new boats - having controlled scotland since 2007 - has no credibility in claiming they could run a country!.

Phizzy

YouGov a ? Not a Company I would trust to return a result that is close to truth. You know who owns the Company I presume ?

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Careful what you wish for! Regarding Jehovah in the New Testament

by pizzahut2023 in

ok i'll bite.. let's say for a moment that jehovah's witnesses are right, and that the nt autographs (the originals) contained the tetragrammaton.let's say that the nt writers always wrote "jehovah" in greek (iexoba, as the witnesses spell it currently) when they quoted the hebrew scriptures, whether they quoted from the hebrew version or the septuagint, and jehovah's name appeared on the quote.

let's say that the original septuagint always had iexoba whenever they were referring to jehovah.then we have that the original septuagint said in psalms 101:26-28 the following:"at the beginning it was you, o jehovah, who founded the earth, and the heavens are works of your hands.

they will perish, but you will endure, and they will all become old like a garment.

Phizzy

I'm well aware of the processes that have gone on in Theology/Christology over the Centuries, but Apologetics are not exegesis/hermeneutics, and basically is just an exercise in justifying beliefs established not on what the Writers wanted their readers to understand.

It is Eisegesis, which as I said above, is an insult to the Text, and if you believe it to be inspired by god, an insult to that god, and a haughty, "Well god obviously meant this", implying he was not capable of saying so.

Of course a magisterium process of later "Revelation" or "Understanding" is necessary, if the original Writings do not confirm the now evolved Theology/Christology.

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How do you feel about Brexit?

by SydBarrett in

jw
friends

the "independent scotland" thread got me thinking on this.

there are a lot of brits on this board.

what are your thoughts on brexit?

Phizzy

Trade with Europe has become so mired in difficulty that many companies in the U.K have either ceased to trade altogether, or are taking huge losses because of it.

We can Trade with the rest of the World, but transporting goods from that far is hardly helping the planet, costs are MUCH higher, unless you are buying shit. Exporting to the other side of the World does not compare with what we had either.